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Idiot wasting my time for 4 years

This person from Croatia asked few questions about Chinese cars, and assuming that he want to purchase a car database, I answered his questions. Usually do not take more than 15 minutes to convince customers to purchase or not purchase a database, but he kept asking questions for more than 90 minutes and I realized that he is not going to buy anything, he is just an idiot chatting non-sense and wasting my time from serving REAL customers!

Next day someone with different visitor # but same Croatia reported an error that was actually correct, I asked if is SAME person who asked yesterday about Chinese cars, he said yes. His browser have cookies disabled, thus every time he appear with new/different visitor # and due to this reason I do not know if is him and I need to answer each chat in case he is a potential customer. A month earlier I got a couple of similar messages from Croatia that may have been SAME person (having over 5000 chats per year, is difficult to find HIS chats without remembering an unique keyword to search, Zendesk Chat do not have option to filter chat logs by country to narrow search, and see if IP matches).

Update: I believe that SAME person is responsible for few dozens stupid messages received over last 4 years (at least). Including a case from 29 November 2015, when someone sent me every 30 min – 1 hour (possible) quotes copy-pasted from various car websites, for an interval of 10 hours, disturbing me for NO reason from possible other activities.

Dear idiot, if you have useful information to contribute, provide info in one quick chat, DO NOT contact me repeatedly and chat for hours, if you aren’t doing any business.

2019 time-wasting chat

Chat started on Thursday, July 11, 2019 2:26:18 PM

(2:26:18 PM) *** Visitor 23276148 has joined the chat ***
(2:26:20 PM) Teoalida (site owner): Hello visitor from Croatia, are you looking for a specific database? Let me know if I can help you!
(2:29:34 PM) Visitor 23276148: Have you heard about DR Motor Company, an Italo-Chinese car manufacturer?
(2:29:51 PM) *** Teoalida has joined the chat ***
(2:29:52 PM) Teoalida: see https://www.teoalida.com/cardatabase/china/
(2:41:46 PM) Visitor 23276148: DR automobiles are being sold exclusively in Italy
(2:42:13 PM) Teoalida: in this case probably is not included in China database
(2:42:17 PM) Teoalida: anyway why do you ask?
(2:42:23 PM) Teoalida: what details do you need for each car?
(2:44:16 PM) Visitor 23276148: Audi has had major expansion of model range: 1980s and early 1990s – 8 models and from 2010s onwards – more than 12 models. Is it correct?
(2:45:16 PM) Teoalida: did you read https://www.teoalida.com/cardatabase/carmakers-produce-too-many-models/ ?
(2:49:36 PM) Teoalida: looks like that you ask questions related with my articles, but what is the point of these questions? do you want to purchase a database?
(2:58:18 PM) Visitor 23276148: One of few historical models sold in the Middle East… https://www.drivearabia.com/roadtests/mercedesbenz/mercedesbenz190e8493/
(2:59:22 PM) Teoalida: 190E was sold all over the world
(3:03:23 PM) Visitor 23276148: Is Toyota Camry from late 1990s being added to the GCC Car Database?
(3:04:46 PM) Visitor 23276148: https://www.drivearabia.com/roadtests/toyota/toyotacamry9802/
(3:05:04 PM) Teoalida: Agent uploaded: 1562846700647.png
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(3:05:58 PM) Visitor 23276148: Unfortunately it’s missing in car database
(3:06:36 PM) Teoalida: OLD cars are often missing
(3:06:55 PM) Teoalida: but for most of my customers is enough. They don’t need cars older than 20 years
(3:07:02 PM) Teoalida: can you give me your email?
(3:10:31 PM) Teoalida: what is your business field? how old cars do you need and what details for each car?
(3:35:58 PM) Visitor 23276148: ARO jeeps were never being sold in Germany, Is it correct?
(3:36:28 PM) Teoalida: do you know that I am from Romania?
(3:36:37 PM) Visitor 23276148: Yes, I know
(3:37:14 PM) Teoalida: ARO was sold in many countries but don’t know if also in Western Europe
(3:39:55 PM) Teoalida: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARO_10 The ARO 10 was sold as the Dacia Duster in some international markets and as ACM Enduro x4 in Italy (assembled by ARO-Ciemme – 1987-1989)
(3:41:33 PM) Teoalida: it do not say exactly WHICH countries where sold
(3:45:34 PM) Teoalida: https://www.ziarexclusiv.info/dosarele-x/capitolul-aro-mortul-fara-cruce-anii-80-aro-10-se-exporta-anglia-sub-numele-de-dacia-duster/ it say that was exported to UK, but Parkers.co.uk (source for my UK database) don’t include it, probably because is too old
(3:58:00 PM) Visitor 23276148: We can say that the ARO vehicles were also being sold in Italy, Spain and Portugal.
(3:58:40 PM) Teoalida: thanks for info, but I still don’t understand what do you want from me?
(3:58:55 PM) Visitor 23276148: Nothing
(3:59:15 PM) Teoalida: why did you opened this conversation?
(3:59:30 PM) Visitor 23276148: due to interesting infos
(4:00:23 PM) Teoalida: you remind me of https://www.teoalida.com/offtopic/chat-2017-11-15/
(4:00:54 PM) Teoalida: 3 people asking questions about my services WITHOUT saying clearly the scope of this conversation, what services they are interested in
(4:35:40 PM) *** Visitor 23276148 has left ***

Chat started on Friday, July 12, 2019 9:52:31 PM

(9:52:31 PM) *** Visitor 18872931 has joined the chat ***
(9:52:31 PM) Visitor 18872931: Hello!
(9:53:49 PM) Visitor 18872931: Hello!
(9:54:33 PM) Auto-respond @ 2 min: The operator is busy or out of office for a moment. Please try again later or leave your email address and I will contact you when I return in office
(10:40:44 PM) *** Teoalida has joined the chat ***
(10:40:46 PM) Teoalida: I am here… now
(10:40:54 PM) *** Visitor 18872931 has left ***

Chat started on Friday, July 12, 2019 10:47:43 PM

(10:47:43 PM) *** Visitor 18872931 has joined the chat ***
(10:47:43 PM) *** Teoalida has joined the chat ***
(10:47:48 PM) Teoalida: I am here… now
(10:48:58 PM) Visitor 18872931: This database include ONLY car models sold in Japanese domestic market (including foreign models sold here) and target people from Japan as well as people from LHD countries in Asia and Africa who import used cars from Japan. – this is obviously being a error LHD is the steering wheel mounted on left – RHT traffic, not LHT!
(10:49:38 PM) Teoalida: is not an error, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-_and_right-hand_traffic
(10:50:42 PM) Visitor 18872931: Is RHD being a steering mounted on right?
(10:54:17 PM) Teoalida: don’t you see the map?
(10:54:24 PM) Teoalida: Japan is blue, LHD
(10:54:53 PM) Teoalida: and you are same person who few days ago wasted me 1 hour asking random questions about Chinese cars and ARO?
(10:59:31 PM) Visitor 18872931: Yes,
(11:00:21 PM) Teoalida: do me a favor and STOP wasting my time chatting unless you want to buy something… I have a LONG to-do list, 3 projects for customers and also voluntary journalism work
(11:08:29 PM) Visitor 18872931: hello
(11:23:32 PM) *** Visitor 18872931 has left ***

Some non-sense chats from 2015 that probably belong to SAME person

Chat started on Saturday, November 28, 2015 10:05:23 PM

(10:05:23 PM) *** Visitor 55092430 has joined the chat ***
(10:05:25 PM) teoalida: Hello from website admin… would you like to know more about certain car database? you are welcome for a chat!
(10:09:55 PM) teoalida: may I know what are you looking for, more exactly?
(10:10:48 PM) Visitor 55092430: Hello, I want to add Australian Holdens on the database!
(10:10:59 PM) *** Teoalida has joined the chat ***
(10:11:00 PM) Teoalida: you add?
(10:11:10 PM) Teoalida: I have Holden in Car Models List Worldwide
(10:11:21 PM) Teoalida: no technical specs
(10:17:37 PM) Visitor 55092430: Do you know about Chery, Geely, JAC, Lifan, Great Wall Motor, Landwind, Brilliance Jinbei, Chang’an (Chana) as well as MG (post-2005 models)?
(10:18:03 PM) Teoalida: very little info about chinese brands is available online
(10:18:18 PM) Teoalida: most models are sold in China only
(10:20:59 PM) Visitor 55092430: Do you know about MG 3, as being one of most recent models by Anglo-Chinese manufacturer MG Motor?
(10:21:27 PM) Teoalida: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MG_3 from 2011
(10:21:30 PM) Teoalida: is this most recent?
(10:22:04 PM) Teoalida: there’s no chinese brands in Car Models List due of incompleteness and confusing info available on Wikipedia, Irather don’t add them than adding wrong info
(10:22:37 PM) Teoalida: Even if MG does have Wikipedia page for each model, other brands don’t have, I will be never able to make complete list of chinese cars
(10:22:55 PM) Teoalida: and since they aren’t sold in other countries why I need to bother adding in database?
(10:29:04 PM) Visitor 55092430: I have found info that the Iran Khodro vehicles are being sold in Iran and Belarus, is it correct?
(10:29:19 PM) Teoalida: in Belarus? really?
(10:29:58 PM) Teoalida: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Khodro#Export_markets
(10:30:01 PM) Teoalida: The company won the annual national prize for export activities in years 2006, 2007. Russia, Syria, Turkey, Iraq, Azerbaijan, Ukraine, Egypt, Algeria and Bulgaria are among the most important target markets for the group.
(10:30:13 PM) Teoalida: didn’t state about Belarus but I m pretty surprised about Russia
(10:31:58 PM) Visitor 55092430: Samand has been also manufactured in Minsk, Belarus, by the Unison firm.
(10:32:11 PM) Teoalida: how do you know?
(10:32:56 PM) Teoalida: anyway, what are you trying to do? are you interested in purchasing anything or you want to help me improving database? or just exchange knowlege?
(10:33:37 PM) Visitor 55092430: I want to help improving your database.
(10:34:22 PM) Teoalida: this never happened before
(10:34:58 PM) Teoalida: somewhat I appreciate, but as I said, I don’t add in cars database unless there is reliable data available
(10:35:18 PM) Teoalida: do you refer at Car Models List or at continent-specific databases?
(10:37:04 PM) Visitor 55092430: I refer to Car Models List Worldwide
(10:37:27 PM) Teoalida: perhaps you saw the list of brands and think that is incomplete?
(10:39:55 PM) Visitor 55092430: Yes, I want just to exchange knowledge, as I think that it is still missing aforementioned Iran Khodro (IKCO) on the list.
(10:39:57 PM) Teoalida: I stated on website that is complete for cars sold in Europe, America and India, does not guarantee worldwide completion
(10:41:37 PM) Teoalida: do you know Panther Westwinds, Ginetta, Tofas, Anadol
(10:45:53 PM) Visitor 55092430: I don’t know about Panther Westwinds, Ginetta and Anadol. But for Tofaş, I know about models named Tofaş Şahin, Doğan, and Kartal which are Turkish versions of the old Fiat 131 automobile made in Türk Otomobil Fabrikası A.Ş. facilities in Bursa, Turkey.
(10:46:25 PM) Teoalida: I added in Car Models & Engines…. Panther, Ginetta and Tofas last month
(10:47:43 PM) Visitor 55092430: Do you know about Mastretta, the first Mexican automobile?
(10:48:25 PM) Teoalida: know it
(10:48:36 PM) Teoalida: but there may be one more mexican car that I don’t know
(10:49:20 PM) Visitor 55092430: Do you know about Pagani and Fornasari?
(10:49:47 PM) Teoalida: Agent uploaded: What-car-is-this.JPG
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(10:49:51 PM) Teoalida: Pagani is there
(10:49:57 PM) Teoalida: Fornasari didn’t know
(10:50:48 PM) Teoalida: if we talk this way, we can find 1000 more manufacturers making more than 10 cars per day
(10:51:01 PM) Teoalida: do you know Sarao Motors? where they are and what they make?
(10:56:13 PM) Visitor 55092430: Sarao Motors, Inc. is a Filipino automotive manufacturing company headquartered in Brgy. Pulang Lupa in the city of Las Piñas in Metro Manila, Philippines. The company designs, engineers, manufactures and distributes the jeepney, the most popular form of transportation in the country, labeled as the ‘king of the road’ in the Philippines.Jeepneys are the most popular means of public transportation in the Philippines. They are known for their crowded seating and kitsch decorations, which have become a ubiquitous symbol of Philippine culture and art. A Sarao jeepney was exhibited at the Philippine pavilion at the 1964 New York World’s Fair as a national image for the Filipinos.
Jeepneys were originally made from U.S. military jeeps left over from World War II.
(10:56:49 PM) Teoalida: it is not viewed as real car company… by foreigners
(10:57:10 PM) Teoalida: and do not have a regulated model lineup, only handmade models
(11:00:46 PM) Visitor 55092430: Saipa Saba is the Iranian version of South Korean Kia Pride, is it really correct?
(11:01:38 PM) Teoalida: Saipa??
(11:03:01 PM) Teoalida: Wikipedia does have a pretty wide list https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_automobile_manufacturers but as stated on Car Brands sheet of that Excel, brands with no regulated model lineup with known year of production are not included
(11:09:04 PM) Visitor 55092430: SAIPA (in Persian: سایپا‎‎) is the second largest Iranian auto manufacturer. SAIPA (an acronym for the French Société Anonyme Iranienne de Production Automobile) was established in 1966, with 75% Iranian ownership, to assemble Citroëns under license for the Iranian market. Nowadays it was built mainly Korean cars, but has also developed its own engine and range of cars.
(11:36:07 PM) Visitor 55092430: SAIPA (in Persian: سایپا‎‎) is the second largest Iranian auto manufacturer. SAIPA (an acronym for the French Société Anonyme Iranienne de Production Automobile) was established in 1966, with 75% Iranian ownership, to assemble Citroëns under license for the Iranian market. Nowadays it was built mainly Korean cars, but has also developed its own engine and range of cars.
(11:36:18 PM) Teoalida: oh, stil here?
(11:36:32 PM) Teoalida: you copied same message
(12:03:08 AM) Visitor 55092430: Is Renault Thalia (Symbol) is added to the list, despite being not sold in Western Europe?
(12:05:40 AM) *** Visitor 55092430 has left ***

Chat started on Sunday, November 29, 2015 1:15:52 PM

(1:15:52 PM) *** Visitor 55092430 has joined the chat ***
(1:15:54 PM) teoalida: Hello from website admin… would you like to know more about certain car database? you are welcome for a chat!
(1:17:34 PM) Visitor 55092430: Yesterday, I have informed about SAIPA, the second largest Iranian automobile manufacturer, which produced several Citroens, Kias, Renaults and Nissans under license, is it done?
(1:17:53 PM) *** Teoalida has joined the chat ***
(1:17:58 PM) Teoalida: is the first time I heard of Saipa
(1:18:06 PM) Teoalida: know Iran Khodro
(1:18:15 PM) Teoalida: and I was going to add it next month
(1:33:43 PM) Visitor 55092430: SAIPA (in Persian: سایپا‎‎) is the second largest Iranian auto manufacturer. SAIPA (an acronym for the French Société Anonyme Iranienne de Production Automobile) was established in 1966, with 75% Iranian ownership, to assemble Citroëns under license for the Iranian market. Nowadays it builds mainly Korean cars, but has also developed its own engine and range of cars.
(1:34:04 PM) Teoalida: you copied this message 2 times yesterday too
(1:38:02 PM) Teoalida: See also https://www.teoalida.com/cardatabase/updates/
(1:58:04 PM) Visitor 55092430: The Renault Thalia (Symbol) was not being sold in Western European markets, do you heard about?
(1:58:22 PM) Teoalida: my country is full of Renault Symbols
(2:01:27 PM) Visitor 55092430: Is true that the VW Jetta is also sold in Brazil with a 2.5 liters 5 cylinders 170 PS, according to Google searching “jetta 2.5 170cv”?
(2:05:32 PM) Visitor 55092430: Is true that the VW Jetta is also sold in Brazil with a 2.5 liters 5 cylinders 170 PS, according to Google searching “jetta 2.5 170cv”?
(2:05:45 PM) Teoalida: in Brazil????
(2:05:59 PM) Teoalida: don’t know what is sold in Brazil but that 2.5 engine is sold in USA market
(2:06:18 PM) Teoalida: I wrote about this on https://www.teoalida.com/cardatabase/non-european-markets/
(2:11:12 PM) Visitor 55092430: Chevrolet Lumina was also rebadged Holden Commodore which was being sold in the Middle East, South Africa and South East Asia.
(2:11:39 PM) Teoalida: why you’re telling me these things about Asia and etc?
(2:11:58 PM) Teoalida: I am not interested in this region yet, when I will be interested I will look myself on Wikipedia
(2:13:59 PM) Visitor 55092430: Because Asian markets are really interesting to me.
(2:14:32 PM) Teoalida: oh I see, but they are too difficult
(2:14:41 PM) Teoalida: a lot of contradictory info available online
(2:15:03 PM) Teoalida: sorry to say but this chat is not so helpful for my business
(2:15:49 PM) Teoalida: there may be other ways you could help
(2:24:44 PM) Visitor 55092430: Many newer Dacia vehicles are sold in some countries as Renaults (eg. Renault Sandero, Renault Duster) in Russia, India as well as Latin America
(2:24:59 PM) Teoalida: I know
(2:28:27 PM) Visitor 55092430: The Opel Karl/Vauxhall Viva is introduced in 2015, replacing both the Opel Agila B and the Chevrolet Spark M300 in Europe.
(2:30:20 PM) Visitor 55092430: The Opel Karl/Vauxhall Viva is introduced in 2015, replacing both the Opel Agila B and the Chevrolet Spark M300 in Europe.
(2:33:12 PM) *** Visitor 55092430 has left ***

Chat started on Sunday, November 29, 2015 2:35:06 PM

(2:35:06 PM) *** Visitor 55092430 has joined the chat ***
(2:35:08 PM) teoalida: Hello from website admin… would you like to know more about certain car database? you are welcome for a chat!
(2:35:22 PM) Visitor 55092430: The Opel Karl/Vauxhall Viva is introduced in 2015, replacing both the Opel Agila B and the Chevrolet Spark M300 in Europe.
(2:36:16 PM) *** Teoalida has joined the chat ***
(2:36:21 PM) Teoalida: why you need to repeat?
(2:38:07 PM) Visitor 55092430: Because you lost its response.
(2:39:27 PM) Teoalida: I never lost
(2:39:38 PM) Teoalida: and what I should reply? sorry if I reply late but I also talk with customers
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Chat started on Sunday, November 29, 2015 4:43:07 PM

(4:43:07 PM) *** Visitor 55092430 has joined the chat ***
(4:43:09 PM) teoalida: Hello from website admin… would you like to know more about certain car database? you are welcome for a chat!
(4:43:23 PM) Visitor 55092430: The olriginal Volkswagen Beetle (Type 1) was been produced from 1938 to 2003 (though it was been discontinued in 1978 for the European markets, but it had ongoing production in Mexico)
(4:45:25 PM) Auto-respond @ 2 min: Sorry for keeping you waiting! The human is probably busy or out of office for a moment. Please wait few more minutes or leave a message with your email address where I can contact you when I come back!
(4:48:58 PM) Visitor 55092430: The original Volkswagen Beetle (Type 1) was been produced from 1938 to 2003 (though it was been discontinued in 1978 for the European markets, but it had ongoing production in Mexico)
(5:25:28 PM) *** Visitor 55092430 has left ***

Chat started on Sunday, November 29, 2015 7:02:44 PM

(7:02:44 PM) *** Visitor 55092430 has joined the chat ***
(7:02:44 PM) Visitor 55092430: The original Volkswagen Beetle (Type 1) was been produced from 1938 to 2003 (though it was been discontinued in 1978 for the European markets, but it had ongoing production in Mexico)
(7:02:56 PM) *** Teoalida has joined the chat ***
(7:02:58 PM) Teoalida: I saw this
(7:03:06 PM) Teoalida: why you are giving me such messages???????
(7:03:13 PM) Teoalida: also you copy from somewhere or writing?
(7:03:18 PM) *** Visitor 55092430 has left ***

Chat started on Sunday, November 29, 2015 11:28:12 PM

(11:28:12 PM) *** Visitor 55092430 has joined the chat ***
(11:28:12 PM) Visitor 55092430: Do you ever heard about Facel Vega?
(11:28:23 PM) *** Teoalida has joined the chat ***
(11:28:34 PM) Teoalida: Facel? hmm I hear
(11:29:10 PM) Teoalida: 4 hours ago you quit
(11:29:12 PM) Teoalida: why you are giving me such messages???????
also you copy from somewhere or writing?
(11:29:47 PM) Visitor 55092430: No, I haven’t copied such a message.
(11:30:40 PM) Teoalida: you write from… where? from your mind?
(11:31:09 PM) Teoalida: I am referring at messages such as one about VW Beetle
(11:31:09 PM) Visitor 55092430: I have found list of automobiles via eBay.
(11:34:28 PM) Visitor 55092430: Toyota has been founded in 1937, is it true?
(11:34:42 PM) Teoalida: my list of car manufacturers what say?
(11:54:28 PM) Visitor 55092430: Do you ever heard about Vespa 400?
(11:58:19 PM) Teoalida: this one no
(11:58:30 PM) Teoalida: Hey can you do something HELPFUL?
(11:59:02 PM) Teoalida: sending me such messages every 30 min is not helpful at all.. it’s rather disturbing, you distract me from doing main yearly update of database
(12:02:02 AM) *** Visitor 55092430 has left ***

A similar non-sense chat from 2018, possible same person

Chat started on Monday, June 04, 2018 4:54:26 PM

(4:54:26 PM) *** Visitor 4612565 has joined the chat ***
(4:54:28 PM) Teoalida (site owner): Hi there… are you looking for a specific database? you are welcome for a chat!
(5:13:44 PM) Visitor 4612565: Have you ever heard about Peugeot 301 from 2012 or Citroen C-Elysee?
(5:13:58 PM) *** Teoalida has joined the chat ***
(5:14:03 PM) Teoalida: they are included in European database
(5:18:52 PM) Visitor 4612565: These are being sold in Europe, but not in Germany, Netherlands, UK, and Scandinavia.
(5:19:35 PM) Teoalida: they are sold in Eastern Europe
(5:20:52 PM) Visitor 4612565: Is Renault Thalia being another name for Renault Symbol which was being sold in Romania?
(5:21:57 PM) Teoalida: in Romania is sold as Symbol, not sure where is Thalia name
(5:22:36 PM) Visitor 4612565: I’m sure that the Renault Thalia was being in the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Slovenia and Croatia.
(5:27:14 PM) Teoalida: did you purchased any database and found missing models?
(5:28:24 PM) Visitor 4612565: No, but i’m sure that the Renault Thalia is another name for Renault Symbol in the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary, Serbia, Slovenia and Croatia.
(5:30:20 PM) Teoalida: and what do you suggest… to write all possible names and indicate each country where it is sold, or what?
(5:30:47 PM) Visitor 4612565: Bye Bye
(5:32:02 PM) Teoalida: why did you came there? to buy any database or just to talk about potential mistakes?
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