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Kids, please DON’T disturb me with dumb questions!

This website is usually visited by adults, some being businessmen, respectful people that knows to start a chat ONLY if they want to buy something, pay a service, or need a professional consultation.

But occasionally kids find my website and seeing the chatbox they send me non-sense messages just “to chat with someone” without needing anything professional. Or some thinks that chatbox is a bot and don’t realize that they disturb a BUSY man. The Housing around the World section seems to be popular among American school children looking for information about other countries for their school paper.

This is example of SERIOUS customer contacting me
Zendesk Chat

This is how some IDIOTS disturb me with non-sense messages
Zendesk Chat

In May 2018 during a single week I received few dozens messages, random off-topic questions, I suspected that someone has posted in Facebook or WhatsApp group something like “If you have any questions go to www.teoalida.com and contact site owner, he answer everything” but when I asked them how they found my website they said that via Google. In May 2019 again I received a large number of random messages. What does happen in US schools in May?

I get a lot of simple questions that could be answered with a simple Google search or a check on Wikipedia, many of them not even on-topic of website (housing). I also get non-sense messages of random letters or sexual harassment messages.

Dear kids, feel free to read my website and use information provided here without messaging me unnecessarily. You risk disturbing me from other activities, making me to run to computer, or if I am not home, to pull phone out from pocket, for NO REASON. If you are not buying anything, paying any service, or needing a professional consultation, just ignore chat pop-up and don’t send any message!

Is also true that some teachers give students projects that require them to gather hard-to-find information, but most of these students are so dumb that they don’t even know how to ask a question properly, I got many VAGUE questions that cannot be answered exactly, I give them a VAGUE answer, some say Thank you and quickly close chat, others unhappy of my answer rate chat negatively, start swearing, threatening that will report me (where?) and I will be fired (this is my personal website so I have no boss).

Example of VAGUE questions:

How do I find the population? – are you asking about population of a specific city, country, total world population, or what?

I need information about education system? – what info do you need? number of schools in a city/country, list of all schools with their addresses, stages of school (primary, secondary, college, etc) or what?

The worse happens when one kid contact me from school and I answer him, schoolmates see him or he tell to schoolmates, causing multiple kids to message me simultaneously, and if I don’t reply fast enough, they spam messages or close chat and start another chat after few minutes, distracting me from answering serious customers, wasting my time from doing the projects that these customers paid me to do, or forcing me to come at computer when I am AFK, to answer a chat that turns NOT a potential customer, but a fucking kid!

Dear kids, if you send chat messages or make phone calls to your mom and dad when they are busy at work, and talk about games they don’t play, movies they don’t watch, sex stuff or other stuff of your personal interest, how they will react?

Example: 12-year kids from Singapore and multiple groups of kids from United States visiting North Korea page.

Another disturbing case was with an American who messaged me via chat to ask for my Skype ID, saying “I have something important to discuss” and after adding in Skype he sent me photos with his shit in toilet, then videocalled me and I saw kids in a classroom.

He ask a question which I answer politely… then he start swearing

Location: Flourtown, Pennsylvania, United States
Page URL: https://www.teoalida.com/world/northkorea/

Chat started on Thursday, November 30, 2017 8:58:57 PM

(8:58:57 PM) *** Visitor 85640686 has joined the chat ***
(8:58:59 PM) Teoalida (site owner): Hi there… if you need any help or just wanna chat, drop here a message!
(9:00:20 PM) Visitor 85640686: How can I travel to North Korea?
(9:00:34 PM) *** Teoalida has joined the chat ***
(9:00:38 PM) Teoalida: apply for a tour
(9:01:50 PM) *** Visitor 85640686 has left ***

Chat started on Thursday, November 30, 2017 9:05:59 PM

(9:05:59 PM) *** Visitor 85640686 has joined the chat ***
(9:05:59 PM) Visitor 85640686: How I apply for a tur?
(9:06:07 PM) Visitor 85640686: I meant tour
(9:06:21 PM) *** Teoalida has joined the chat ***
(9:06:29 PM) Teoalida: go to a tourism agency for example https://koryogroup.com/
(9:06:42 PM) Visitor 85640686: Ok thanks by the way u are a fucking pusssy
(9:06:55 PM) Teoalida: why do you use such language?
(9:07:38 PM) Teoalida: may I know why do you want to travel to THIS country?
due to tensions with USA some tourism agencies may choose to not accept US citizens for safety reasons
(9:07:56 PM) Visitor 85640686: OH FUCK MY B FAM I WAS TEXTING MY FRIEND ON MY LAPTOP AND I ACCIDENTALLY SENT THAT TO U. MY FUCKING BAD I DIDNT MEAN TO CALL U A PUSSY
(9:08:09 PM) Visitor 85640686: OH SHIT IM AMERICAN AF
(9:08:43 PM) Visitor 85640686: IM TRYNA ASSASINATE KIM JONG UN LIKE JAMES FRANCO FUCKED UP IN THE INTERVIEW
(9:09:11 PM) Teoalida: you sound like a kid with big dreams having fun on chat
(9:09:44 PM) Visitor 85640686: U GOTTAPOINT B BUT IM TRYNA FUCK UP KIM JONG UN NGL BRO
(9:10:01 PM) Teoalida: do you have money for travel?
(9:10:07 PM) Visitor 85640686: YEAH IM A RAPPER
(9:10:11 PM) Visitor 85640686: I GOT MAD BREAD
(9:10:41 PM) Teoalida: a tour in North Korea cost few thousand dollars and you’re permanently guided and not allowed to do what you want…. you will only visit several monuments
(9:10:48 PM) Teoalida: doesn’t worth the money in my opinion
(9:11:02 PM) Teoalida: and stop dreaming that you can meet Kim Jong Un
(9:11:09 PM) Visitor 85640686: SHEEE IT DONT MATTER B IMMA BE A ROCKSTAR AFTER I KILL HE ASS
(9:40:06 PM) *** Visitor 85640686 has left ***

Buy chicken

Thursday, 14 Mar, 2013
Country: Canada
Page URL: https://www.teoalida.com/
[16:22] Visitor: Hello?
[16:22] Teoalida has joined the conversation
[16:22] Teoalida: hi
[16:22] Visitor is now known as Jefferson
[16:23] Jefferson: Do you know a good place to buy some chiken?
[16:23] Jefferson: chicken
[16:23] Teoalida: Go to supermarket
[16:23] Jefferson: ok thanks
[16:23] Teoalida: Why do you ask ME this?
[16:23] Jefferson: »No time sorry bye
[16:24] Teoalida: Is one of the weirdest questions from website visitors
[16:24] Jefferson has left the conversation

Kid pretending that need architectural design services

This american visited https://www.teoalida.com/world/philippines/ where first row says “Are you building a house in Philippines? See sample house plans and contact me to design new house for you!“.
plus his messages, gave me impression that is an overseas filipino worker looking to build a house in his home country, but actually was an american kid “playing” on customer support chat and wasting my time!

Location: Littleton, Massachusetts, United States
Page URL: https://www.teoalida.com/world/philippines/

Chat started on Monday, May 20, 2019 1:01:20 AM

(1:01:20 AM) *** Visitor 54921455 has joined the chat ***
(1:01:22 AM) Teoalida (site owner): Hello visitor from United States, what are you looking for? If you need any help or just want to talk about what is on my website, drop here a message!
(1:04:24 AM) Visitor 54921455: Hi,
(1:04:37 AM) Visitor 54921455: I am doing a project on the philippines.
(1:04:53 AM) *** Teoalida has joined the chat ***
(1:04:54 AM) Visitor 54921455: And I am looking for information about the house types.
(1:05:01 AM) Visitor 54921455 has rated the chat Good
(1:05:06 AM) Teoalida: tell me land dimensions and how many rooms do you need
(1:05:42 AM) Visitor 54921455: I need a plot size of 900 feet x 600 feet and 3 story house with 7 bedrooms.
(1:05:47 AM) Visitor 54921455: 3 Bathrooms
(1:05:51 AM) Visitor 54921455: And 2 living rooms
(1:06:33 AM) Teoalida: maybe 90×60 ft because 900×600 is unrealistic large
(1:06:48 AM) Visitor 54921455: Nevermind then
(1:06:50 AM) Visitor 54921455: Have a nice day.
(1:06:52 AM) Visitor 54921455 has changed the rating to Bad
(1:06:56 AM) Visitor 54921455 has removed the chat rating
(1:06:58 AM) Teoalida: www.teoalida.com/design/houseplans see my designs
(1:07:07 AM) Teoalida: why do you rate chat BAD?
(1:07:15 AM) Visitor 54921455: I didn’t.
(1:07:19 AM) Visitor 54921455: I removed my rate.
(1:07:22 AM) Visitor 54921455: To normal.
(1:07:24 AM) Visitor 54921455: Thanks,
(1:07:25 AM) Visitor 54921455: bye.
(1:07:39 AM) Teoalida: but this prove how non serious you are
(1:07:45 AM) Visitor 54921455: Excuse me?
(1:07:49 AM) Visitor 54921455: I will leave it bad then.
(1:07:51 AM) Visitor 54921455: Have a nice day.
(1:07:53 AM) Visitor 54921455 has rated the chat Bad
(1:08:01 AM) Teoalida: and sadly, there are MANY people like you
(1:08:08 AM) Visitor 54921455: Same with you
(1:08:16 AM) Teoalida: due to people like you I had to quit my job of architectural designer
(1:08:24 AM) Visitor 54921455: Congradulations.
(1:08:27 AM) Visitor 54921455: Why would i car
(1:08:28 AM) Visitor 54921455: ee
(1:08:47 AM) Visitor 54921455: You know what FUCK YOU get a better life bitch, you didn’t quit you probably got fired.
(1:08:48 AM) Teoalida: you aren’t even checking my house designs but you request architectural design services from me
(1:08:58 AM) Visitor 54921455: I am not even requestin that
(1:09:05 AM) Teoalida: I think that you are an american kid who don’t own anything in Philippines
(1:09:06 AM) Visitor 54921455: I just asked a simple question
(1:09:14 AM) Visitor 54921455: I do not own anything in the Philippines.
(1:09:21 AM) Visitor 54921455: But I am a major shareholder in the US.
(1:09:32 AM) Visitor 54921455: Thats why I needed it “unrealistic large:
(1:09:34 AM) Visitor 54921455: ”
(1:09:45 AM) Visitor 54921455: Good day, bye.
(1:09:58 AM) Teoalida: hope I won’t see you again
(1:10:13 AM) Teoalida: let me to be contacted by serious customers only
(1:10:24 AM) *** Visitor 54921455 has left ***

Too many people contacting me at same time = BAD!

On 22 January 2018 during an interval of only 10 minutes I received 9 chats from 6 people, asking various questions picked from my own writings. For example in https://www.teoalida.com/world/latinamerica/ I wrote “Brasilia, the biggest planned city of the world, by architects Lúcio Costa and Oscar Niemeyer” and “Sao Paulo is considered one of most vertical cities in the world” and they asked questions like “Which is the biggest planned city in the world?” and “which city is considered one of the most vertical city” I don’t understand why they had to ask this.

If you are a group of students needing help from me, please designate ONE person to contact me and ask all questions, if each of you ask a question how I am supposed to answer all them?

12 year child with disturbing behavior

Country: Canada
Page URL: https://www.teoalida.com/

Chat started on Wednesday, May 02, 2018 7:00:20 PM

(7:00:20 PM) *** Visitor 59275975 has joined the chat ***
(7:00:20 PM) Visitor 59275975: hi
(7:00:30 PM) *** Teoalida has joined the chat ***
(7:00:31 PM) Teoalida: hello
(7:00:44 PM) Visitor 59275975: i need help finding info
(7:01:13 PM) Visitor 59275975: ????
(7:01:18 PM) Visitor 59275975: hey there?
(7:01:23 PM) Teoalida: be more specific what do you need?
(7:01:39 PM) Visitor 59275975: do you only have asia info?
(7:02:02 PM) Teoalida: www.teoalida.com/world check how many countries I researched
(7:05:02 PM) Visitor 59275975: ok thanks found the info
(7:05:46 PM) Visitor 59275975: ??
(7:06:10 PM) Visitor 59275975: heello?
(7:06:24 PM) Teoalida: what do you want????
(7:06:40 PM) Visitor 59275975: i want info about antartica
(7:06:51 PM) Visitor 59275975: i’m reasarching about that
(7:06:52 PM) Teoalida: your attitude is childish
(7:07:04 PM) Visitor 59275975: i’m child
(7:07:12 PM) Visitor 59275975: im 12
(7:07:29 PM) Visitor 59275975: ??
(7:07:59 PM) Teoalida: excessive repetition of question marks and “helloooooo” without asking any ACTUAL QUESTION, is also childish
(7:08:37 PM) Visitor 59275975: your owner of this website you supposed to help other people
(7:09:16 PM) Teoalida: I am here to help people paying me to do various projects, NOT to answer stupid questions
(7:10:40 PM) *** Visitor 59275975 has left ***

He or she or friends contacted me 6 times for about 1 hour, always asking non-sense questions.

Dumb and VAGUE questions

Country: United States
Page URL: https://www.teoalida.com/world/india/

Chat started on Thursday, May 10, 2018 9:25:24 PM

(9:25:24 PM) *** Visitor 21947080 has joined the chat ***
(9:25:26 PM) Teoalida (site owner): Hi there… may I know what are you looking for? If you need any help, drop here a message!
(9:29:18 PM) Visitor 21947080: hi
(9:29:31 PM) *** Teoalida has joined the chat ***
(9:29:35 PM) Teoalida: what’s up
(9:29:45 PM) Visitor 21947080: how do I find the population
(9:30:31 PM) Teoalida: how did you found my website? do a google search for population
(9:30:52 PM) Teoalida: https://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_&met_y=sp_pop_totl&hl=en&dl=en
(9:31:30 PM) Visitor 21947080: how old r u
(9:31:42 PM) Teoalida: 29, why do you ask this?
(9:31:54 PM) Teoalida: are you from same group of kids who contacted me past few days?
(9:32:02 PM) Teoalida: with their non-sense questions?
(9:32:40 PM) Visitor 21947080: i am not. I’m doing a geography project
(9:33:07 PM) Teoalida: maybe you’re interested in this too…. https://www.teoalida.com/database/countries/
(9:33:49 PM) Visitor 21947080: are you male or female

Chat started on Thursday, May 10, 2018 6:27:29 PM

(6:27:29 PM) *** Visitor 28445800 has joined the chat ***
(6:27:29 PM) Visitor 28445800: hello
(6:27:37 PM) *** Teoalida has joined the chat ***
(6:27:37 PM) Teoalida: hi
(6:28:01 PM) Visitor 28445800: hey
(6:28:10 PM) Visitor 28445800: how’s it going
(6:28:21 PM) Teoalida: who are you>?
(6:28:32 PM) Visitor 28445800: i want to meet you 🙂
(6:28:56 PM) Visitor 28445800: oh shit sorry wrong website
(6:29:09 PM) Teoalida: excuse me? are you interested in my business services or you just want to have dating fun on chat?
(6:29:41 PM) Visitor 28445800: im interested in your services
(6:30:52 PM) Visitor 28445800: hello?
(6:31:16 PM) Teoalida: just say what do you need… if you really need something
(6:33:52 PM) Teoalida: ????????????
(6:36:51 PM) Teoalida: ARE YOU STILL HERE????!!!!!
(6:51:40 PM) *** Visitor 28445800 has left ***

Very idiotic question

Country: United Kingdom
Page URL: https://www.teoalida.com/world/northkorea/

Chat started on Friday, June 22, 2018 12:08:30 PM

(12:08:30 PM) *** Visitor 37406373 has joined the chat ***
(12:08:30 PM) Visitor 37406373: hello is it e your looking for
(12:08:41 PM) *** Teoalida has joined the chat ***
(12:08:42 PM) Teoalida: what??
(12:08:56 PM) Visitor 37406373: mother trucks are da best
(12:09:25 PM) Visitor 37406373: oh crap wrong person i wanted to talk to toealida
(12:09:33 PM) Teoalida: why do you message me?
(12:09:57 PM) Visitor 37406373: do you koow why there sre different sized dicks
(12:10:29 PM) Teoalida: are you trying to have fun on customer service chats?
(12:10:51 PM) Visitor 37406373: noi need help with north kores
(12:11:10 PM) Teoalida: Can I post your chat in https://www.teoalida.com/offtopic/weird-questions/ ?
(12:11:28 PM) Visitor 37406373: i will be back for help no it was my freind im sry l
(12:12:20 PM) Teoalida: Please DON’T come back if you’re going to behave this way
(12:12:39 PM) *** Visitor 37406373 has left ***

Philippines perspective on housing – VAGUE question

I don’t know if this was ONE student asking same question 3 different days, or were different people.

Location: Batangas, Province of Batangas, Philippines
Page URL: https://www.teoalida.com/world/philippines/

Chat started on Thursday, January 17, 2019 1:57:33 PM

(1:57:33 PM) *** Visitor 42711914 has joined the chat ***
(1:57:35 PM) Teoalida (site owner): Hi there… may I know what are you looking for? If you need any help or just want to talk about what is on website, drop here a message!
(1:58:17 PM) Visitor 42711914: the philippines perspective on housing
(1:58:40 PM) *** Teoalida has joined the chat ***
(1:58:43 PM) Teoalida: what I should say?
(1:59:41 PM) Visitor 42711914: the philippines point of view about housing
(2:01:18 PM) Teoalida: I am not sure what do you want, if you need architectural design services we can help you
(2:01:49 PM) Visitor 42711914: no thanks
(2:37:40 PM) *** Visitor 42711914 has left ***

Location: Batangas, Province of Batangas, Philippines
Page URL: https://www.teoalida.com/world/philippines/

Chat started on Saturday, January 19, 2019 1:38:15 PM

(1:38:15 PM) *** Visitor 58365817 has joined the chat ***
(1:38:17 PM) Teoalida (site owner): Hi there… may I know what are you looking for? If you need any help or just want to talk about what is on website, drop here a message!
(1:43:34 PM) Visitor 58365817: philippine perspective on housing
(1:43:44 PM) *** Teoalida has joined the chat ***
(1:43:47 PM) Teoalida: what I should say?
(1:44:35 PM) Visitor 58365817: im looking for philippine perspective on housing
(1:44:56 PM) Teoalida: explain in detail what do you mean with perspective if you want a detailed answer
(1:48:38 PM) Visitor 58365817: overview about philippine houses
(1:49:25 PM) Teoalida: if you don’t need too many details, this article itself if an overview, JUST READ IT, what else do you need from me?
(3:00:50 PM) *** Visitor 58365817 has left ***

Location: Batangas, Province of Batangas, Philippines
Page URL: https://www.teoalida.com/world/philippines/

Chat started on Monday, January 21, 2019 3:14:06 PM

(3:14:06 PM) *** Visitor 86858865 has joined the chat ***
(3:14:08 PM) Teoalida (site owner): Hi there… may I know what are you looking for? If you need any help or just want to talk about what is on website, drop here a message!
(3:21:24 PM) Visitor 86858865: do you the philippines perspective on housing?
(3:21:47 PM) *** Teoalida has joined the chat ***
(3:22:00 PM) Teoalida: you asked same thing 2 days ago
(3:22:15 PM) Visitor 86858865: lol
(3:22:50 PM) Teoalida: and 4 days ago too or wasn’t you but someone else
(3:23:50 PM) Visitor 86858865: no i haven’t yet asking! i barely have an internet connection.

Vague question

Country: United States
Page URL: https://www.teoalida.com/world/china/

Chat started on Wednesday, May 22, 2019 7:28:17 PM

(7:28:17 PM) *** Visitor 40707217 has joined the chat ***
(7:28:19 PM) Teoalida (site owner): Hello visitor from United States, what are you looking for? If you need any help or just want to talk about what is on my website, drop here a message!
(7:33:27 PM) Visitor 40707217: just looking for how population in china affects housing
(7:33:40 PM) *** Teoalida has joined the chat ***
(7:33:46 PM) Teoalida: affecting house prices or…?
(7:34:27 PM) Visitor 40707217: just any sort of affects/ issues it can create
(7:35:11 PM) Teoalida: vague question, not sure what to answer
(7:35:24 PM) Teoalida: but there are dozens millions of empty homes in China
(7:37:29 PM) Visitor 40707217: thank you
(7:38:09 PM) *** Visitor 40707217 has left ***

Vague question from Singapore

Country: Singapore
Page URL: https://www.teoalida.com/singapore/hdbstatistics/

Chat started on Saturday, May 25, 2019 2:09:44 PM

(2:09:44 PM) *** Visitor 78179496 has joined the chat ***
(2:09:45 PM) Visitor 78179496: hello
(2:09:51 PM) *** Teoalida has joined the chat ***
(2:09:52 PM) Teoalida: hi
(2:09:56 PM) Visitor 78179496: hi
(2:10:08 PM) Visitor 78179496: just to check
(2:10:31 PM) Visitor 78179496: may i know the HDB statistics of Jurong East
(2:10:44 PM) *** Visitor 78179496 has left ***

Chat started on Saturday, May 25, 2019 2:10:49 PM

(2:10:49 PM) *** Visitor 78179496 has joined the chat ***
(2:10:49 PM) Visitor 78179496: may i know the HDB statistics of Jurong East
(2:10:52 PM) *** Teoalida has joined the chat ***
(2:11:02 PM) Teoalida: number of units in town is shown in this table
(2:11:07 PM) Teoalida: or what statistics do you need?
(2:11:17 PM) Visitor 78179496: what table
(2:12:40 PM) Teoalida: table in HDB statisitcs page
(2:12:43 PM) Teoalida: what do you want to know?
(2:13:06 PM) Visitor 78179496: tell me all you know about Jurong East
(2:13:28 PM) Teoalida: vague question
(2:13:40 PM) Teoalida: what answer do you expect?
(2:13:48 PM) Teoalida: see also the map on homepage www.teoalida.com
(2:13:57 PM) Visitor 78179496: What do you know about housing in Jurong East
(2:14:29 PM) Teoalida: or if you want number of units breakdown by block and flat type in Excel format, you can buy from https://www.teoalida.com/singapore/hdbdatabase/
(2:15:25 PM) Teoalida: or you want statistics of market price evolution?
(2:16:00 PM) *** Visitor 78179496 has left ***

Chat started on Saturday, May 25, 2019 2:27:57 PM

(2:27:57 PM) *** Visitor 78179496 has joined the chat ***
(2:27:59 PM) Teoalida (site owner): Hello visitor from Singapore, what are you looking for? If you need any help or just want to talk about what is on my website, drop here a message!
(2:38:16 PM) Visitor 78179496: ok
(2:38:33 PM) Visitor 78179496: Do you have statistics for condo
(2:38:43 PM) *** Teoalida has joined the chat ***
(2:38:44 PM) Teoalida: https://www.teoalida.com/singapore/condodatabase/
(3:00:31 PM) *** Visitor 78179496 has left ***

Disrespectful language but claim that is 34 years old

Country: United Kingdom
Page URL: https://www.teoalida.com/world/india/

Chat started on Wednesday, June 19, 2019 4:58:38 PM

(4:58:38 PM) *** Visitor 75786443 has joined the chat ***
(4:58:40 PM) Teoalida (site owner): Hello visitor from United Kingdom, what are you looking for? If you need any help or just want to talk about what is on my website, drop here a message!
(4:59:02 PM) Visitor 75786443: what are houses like in india?
(4:59:16 PM) *** Teoalida has joined the chat ***
(4:59:18 PM) Teoalida: look in these photos
(4:59:32 PM) Visitor 75786443: is it poor there?
(5:00:04 PM) Teoalida: there is huge inequality, poor and rich mixed up
(5:00:17 PM) Visitor 75786443: whats your house like?
(5:00:41 PM) Visitor 75786443: —–+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
(5:00:51 PM) Teoalida: but why do you ask these vague questions?
(5:01:03 PM) Visitor 75786443: your a bitch
(5:01:17 PM) Teoalida: and you probably are a kid having no respect for businessmen
(5:01:25 PM) Teoalida: www.teoalida.com/offtopic/kids this is for you
(5:01:51 PM) Visitor 75786443: im a 34 year old women i know more that u you silly bitch
(5:03:25 PM) Teoalida: if you are 34 years old then you should be retarded to talk like this here “your a bitch”
(5:04:04 PM) Visitor 75786443: im a retard you have just hurt my feelings crying noe
(5:04:12 PM) Visitor 75786443: gonna kill myself
(5:05:20 PM) Visitor 75786443 has rated the chat Bad
(5:05:34 PM) Visitor 75786443 commented: “very rude”
(5:05:50 PM) Visitor 75786443: very disrespectful
(5:06:09 PM) Visitor 75786443: get anyother job because im getting u sacked
(5:06:56 PM) Teoalida: if you can’t have a nice conversation, please DON’T message me again
(5:07:10 PM) Visitor 75786443: niogger
(5:07:22 PM) Teoalida: beside this I am a busy man working for paying customers but you aren’t paying anything, you just disturb me with childish questions
(5:07:37 PM) Visitor 75786443: u are nigger
(5:07:50 PM) Teoalida: ban IP?
(5:08:02 PM) Visitor 75786443: what does that mean
(5:08:14 PM) Visitor 75786443: beren
(5:10:33 PM) Visitor 75786443: hi
(5:10:34 PM) Visitor 75786443: hi
(5:10:35 PM) Visitor 75786443: hih
(5:10:35 PM) Visitor 75786443: hih
(5:10:36 PM) Visitor 75786443: hi
(5:11:01 PM) Teoalida: I’m gonna ban your IP, stop disturbing me from doing my job!
(5:11:08 PM) *** Visitor 75786443 has left ***

Chat started on Wednesday, June 19, 2019 5:10:10 PM

(5:10:10 PM) *** Visitor 73584058 has joined the chat ***
(5:10:10 PM) Visitor 73584058: hellon
(5:10:31 PM) Visitor 73584058: i need help
(5:10:41 PM) *** Teoalida has joined the chat ***
(5:10:42 PM) Teoalida: with?
(5:11:20 PM) Visitor 73584058: pooing in my cat
(5:11:54 PM) Visitor 73584058: hello?
(5:12:02 PM) Teoalida: what do you want from me?
(5:12:18 PM) Visitor 73584058: anal poopoo sex
(5:12:29 PM) Visitor 73584058: are you down?
(5:12:32 PM) Teoalida: what does say the 1st row in Contact page?
(5:12:57 PM) Visitor 73584058: it say beren is very sexy
(5:13:06 PM) Teoalida: Feel free to contact me if you have any enquiry about AutoCAD, architecture, real estate, databases research, data mining and analysis, or any other stuff covered by articles of this website, comments about my works, errors to report, suggestions, critics, etc.
(5:13:08 PM) Visitor 73584058: i cant read btw am dyslexic
(5:13:19 PM) Teoalida: since you don’t have any of these, please DON’T disturb me again!
(5:13:22 PM) Visitor 73584058: i have enquiry
(5:13:40 PM) Visitor 73584058: how do poopoo sex with cat
(5:13:48 PM) Visitor 73584058: ??
(5:14:17 PM) Visitor 73584058: henlo are you thehhehre??:>??:
(5:14:59 PM) Visitor 73584058: where you go you fricking scummy little bum suck
(5:15:37 PM) Teoalida: I am here, busy talking with a customer… 3 people in chat
(5:16:54 PM) Visitor 73584058: poo ear
(5:17:58 PM) *** Visitor 73584058 has left ***

Chat started on Wednesday, June 19, 2019 5:15:37 PM

(5:15:37 PM) *** Visitor 71849797 has joined the chat ***
(5:15:37 PM) Visitor 71849797: henlo
(5:15:44 PM) *** Teoalida has joined the chat ***
(5:16:00 PM) Teoalida: Can you please stop disturbing me and tell to your friends to stop too?
(5:16:05 PM) Teoalida: www.teoalida.com/offtopic/kids
(5:16:30 PM) Visitor 71849797: i have 0 friends
(5:16:38 PM) Visitor 71849797: and i not kid
(5:17:30 PM) *** Visitor 71849797 has left ***

Was really necessary to contact me for THIS question?

Country: United States
Page URL: https://www.teoalida.com/world/northkorea/

Chat started on Thursday, June 20, 2019 8:31:37 PM

(8:31:37 PM) *** Visitor 25077279 has joined the chat ***
(8:31:39 PM) Teoalida (site owner): Hello visitor from United States, what are you looking for? If you need any help or just want to talk about what is on my website, drop here a message!
(8:32:24 PM) Visitor 25077279: I have a question
(8:32:39 PM) *** Teoalida has joined the chat ***
(8:32:39 PM) Teoalida: ?
(8:33:03 PM) Visitor 25077279: Why is South Korea better than North Korea?
(8:33:23 PM) Teoalida: because capitalist is better than communist?
(8:33:31 PM) Teoalida: www.teoalida.com/world/southkorea
(8:33:46 PM) Visitor 25077279: Ok. Thank you
(8:33:52 PM) Visitor 25077279: i don’t like communist
(8:33:54 PM) Teoalida: I can’t believe that you disturb me with such dumb questions
(8:34:16 PM) Visitor 25077279: Well I have another question
(8:34:20 PM) Visitor 25077279: it is a smart one
(8:35:10 PM) Visitor 25077279: nvm
(8:36:16 PM) *** Visitor 25077279 has left ***

Idiot Singaporean

We all know that SERS is just for old blocks built up to 1980 and he is asking when a recently-built block (2007) will get SERS. I answered his questions nice and he rate chat BAD, call me “gay” and accuse me for not replying fast enough. What is wrong with some Singaporeans?

Chat started on Monday, March 18, 2019 4:44:58 AM

(4:44:58 AM) *** Visitor 21298576 has joined the chat ***
(4:44:58 AM) Visitor 21298576: what is a price for a 62 year old flat
(4:45:13 AM) *** Teoalida has joined the chat ***
(4:45:33 AM) Teoalida: you can check prices of nearby flats transacted in https://services2.hdb.gov.sg/webapp/BB33RTIS/BB33PReslTrans.jsp
(4:47:09 AM) Visitor 21298576: thanks
(4:47:50 AM) Visitor 21298576: hello are you still there
(4:48:05 AM) Teoalida: just say what do you need without asking if I am here
(4:49:00 AM) Visitor 21298576: how to tell whether my flat is getting sers
(4:49:43 AM) Teoalida: click your block on homepage www.teoalida.com I estimated SERS potential for every block and wrote it in popup
(4:50:27 AM) Visitor 21298576: but it is not clear
(4:50:58 AM) Teoalida: and do you expect someone to tell you EXACTLY that your block will get SERS in 2021 or 2029? that’s not possible, nobody knows
(4:52:54 AM) Visitor 21298576: this flat is 265a compassvale link and it was built in 2007 how to tell whether my flat is getting sers
(4:53:23 AM) Teoalida: https://www.teoalida.com/singapore/serslist/
Nobody can answer WHEN a block will get SERS. Don’t ask such questions!
You cannot be sure that a block will be demolished except when the SERS site is announced. Instead, we can be sure which blocks will be NOT a be SERS site next 10-20 years.
(4:53:34 AM) Teoalida: what… you want SERS for a flat just 12 years old???????
(4:53:53 AM) Visitor 21298576: no
(4:54:33 AM) Teoalida: in case you don’t read news, MND announced VERS past year and said that only 5% of flats will get SERS, so probably these 2000s flats will get VERS in 2080s
(4:54:49 AM) Visitor 21298576: no
(4:55:11 AM) Visitor 21298576: vers and sers are not the same
(4:55:32 AM) Teoalida: anyway is hard to imagine myself how the world will look 50 years in the future… at least Singapore is a powerful economy and can replace blocks, but in Eastern Europe there are lots of blocks built in 1950-1990 that may collapse before economy is able to replace them
(4:56:50 AM) Visitor 21298576: just because your flat is not the same
(4:56:57 AM) Visitor 21298576: that it
(4:57:10 AM) Visitor 21298576 has rated the chat Bad
(4:57:52 AM) Teoalida: VERS and SERS indeed not the same, who said that is the same?
(4:58:04 AM) Visitor 21298576: you said that
(4:58:29 AM) Teoalida: 5% of flats will get SERS and remaining ones will get VERS when leases are nearly ending
(4:58:52 AM) Visitor 21298576 has removed the chat rating
(4:59:07 AM) Visitor 21298576: who know sers flat rate may go up still
(4:59:39 AM) Teoalida: we all hope this, but is unlikely HDB to raise rate of SERS sites
(4:59:55 AM) Visitor 21298576: still likely
(5:00:06 AM) Teoalida: if you would have read fuill page https://www.teoalida.com/singapore/serslist/ you would have understood why
(5:00:34 AM) Visitor 21298576: gay
(5:01:14 AM) Visitor 21298576: no reply end chat
(5:01:19 AM) Teoalida: may I know your age?
(5:01:32 AM) Visitor 21298576: forget it
(5:01:35 AM) Visitor 21298576 has rated the chat Bad
(5:01:45 AM) Teoalida: and which question I didn’t replied?
(5:02:21 AM) Visitor 21298576: you reply to late
(5:02:24 AM) Teoalida: you sound like a kid who got bored and just want to chat with someone, rather than a HDB owner needing professional consultation
(5:02:38 AM) Visitor 21298576: shut up
(5:02:50 AM) Teoalida: a serious person wouldn’t rate chat BAD or say “gay”
(5:03:17 AM) *** Visitor 21298576 has left ***

Chat started on Monday, March 18, 2019 5:07:35 AM

(5:07:35 AM) *** Teoalida has joined the chat ***
(5:07:35 AM) *** Visitor 21298576 has joined the chat ***
(5:07:54 AM) Teoalida: a serious person wouldn’t rate chat BAD or say “gay” … please be nice or I ban your IP and you won’t be able to get help from me anymore
(5:10:16 AM) *** Visitor 21298576 has left ***

What this guy wants from me?

What does this person wanted from me!!!???
Every day, I am contacted by few people from Singapore for info about HDB and chit-chat, I am also contacted by people all around the world for architecture / CAD design services.
I differentiate customers by chit-chatters by the way they address me and by what pages they click.
Look how THIS guy is addressing me!! Sometimes I mistreat chit-chatters as potential customers, but could be this a potential customer, mistreat as chit-chatter and lost?

Who’s attitude is rudest? my one or visitor’s one? Please leave comments!

Wednesday, 12 Dec, 2012
Country: Singapore
Page URL: http:/www.teoalida.com/cardatabase/
[3:34] Teoalida (trigger): Hello from website admin! Can I help you with anything? drop here a message!
[3:42] Visitor: Hi. What do you do for a living?
[3:42] Teoalida has joined the conversation
[3:42] Teoalida: Are you curious how I earn money?
[3:42] Teoalida: so far I eat parents money, trying to start own business
[3:43] Visitor: I see. I am looking at your website, so thinking of what do u do actually.

[3:43] Teoalida: Nice
[3:44] Teoalida: I am curious too, what others understand about me just by seeing website?
[3:44] Visitor: do you do design for people?
[3:44] Teoalida: yes and this is main income forme (typo: for me)
[3:44] Visitor: I do not know you, so can only understand from your website
[3:46] Visitor: how old are you anyway?
[3:47] Teoalida: you’re in About me page and didn’t saw my age?
[3:47] Teoalida: but that is good, try giving me an age!
[3:47] Teoalida: I am surprised how broad range was other’s guess
[3:49] Visitor: Hmm. Good luck in your venture.
[3:50] Visitor: Not keen in engaing your services from the way you speak. Thanks.
[3:50] Teoalida: Do you have any suggestions? at this moment my business does not work as I imagined
[3:51] Teoalida: from the way I talk? did I made any mistake?
[3:51] Visitor: See ya!
[3:51] Visitor has left the conversation
[3:51] Teoalida: Explain me…. and btw, people looking for my services are NOT asking such questions like you, so I talk differently
[3:51] * You are not in a chat *

 

I am sorry for being an IDIOT when I said “I eat parents money“, shall say that I am “unemployed, just a little freelancing“, but after showing this chat to 2 friends, both said that the visitor is a BIGGER IDIOT, is totally RUDE to start a chat by asking about personal life! And that is OK to post it on website as funny-stupid chats.

What do I should answer to such people asking “what I do for a living” or saying that “know nothing about me“?
You should ask me whatever do you want and you will see if I can help you regardless of my job (see another funny chat – visitor left because I do not have the job that he thought).
In the same time, I need to know if my website show a correct image about what I am doing, asking such questions or playing “guess my age” with customers NOT recommended, so I do such surveys with chit-chaters. I usually tell my age AFTER I offer what he/she want. Anyway 99% of the visitors using chat do not even ask about age. PS: my age was public in About Me page (deleted soon afterwards), but he may not have read entire page.

After this incident, i have reviewed my style of chatting and identifying customers, next time when someone ask weird questions I will ask him “What are you looking for?”
I also have rewritten the About me page, let’s hope that now is clear what I am doing.

According visitors statistics, he had 7 visits of my website (or shared IP), looking for Singapore HDB floor plans, then clicked About Me, other 8 pages including 2 Funny Chats, then clicked Car Database and started the chat. He did not clicked any page under Design section.
Probably he was surprised to see a Car Database on same website with Singapore real estate, that is why asked me what I actually do…
Not engaging in my services by the way I speak? LOL… was he actually interested in my services?
Real customers interested in my services typically start chatting with “Can you help me…“, “Do you have…” or “I am looking for…” so I speak in different way.

 

Update: During the following year I has been asked same question “Do you do design for people?” by 2 other people, referring at interior design services. I came in final conclusion that the above guy from 12 December 2012 may have been interested in interior design for a HDB flat , and in this case he would have been my FIRST customer in Singapore and also FIRST customer for interior design services.
I am designer specialized in architecture field so I have customers mostly in booming third-world countries (India, Philippines, etc). In Singapore very few people are rich enough to build houses. On my website I also offer large amount of info about Singapore’s HDB so I expect to be contacted by Singaporeans for HDB-related advices and chit-chat, 99% of them are NOT interested in design services. Considering the RUDE way he addressed me without telling what he is looking for, I did NOT expected that he may be a customer. In the future when someone ask about personal life, I ask what you are looking for, before answering something that may turn customers away.

 

The following is an example of NORMAL way of chatting

Visitor ask help, I help him, THEN we talk about personal life, and tell him my age. Nobody gets angry.

Wednesday, 20 Mar, 2013
Country: Singapore
Page URL: http:/www.teoalida.com/singapore/hdbfloorplans/
[15:02] Teoalida (trigger): Hello from website admin! Can I help you with anything? drop here a message!
[15:04] Visitor: Hi, i would like to request for a particular block floor plan in bukit panjang. Are you able to help?
[15:04] Teoalida has joined the conversation
[15:04] Teoalida: sometimes yes, sometimes no
[15:05] Teoalida: newer block = hard to find
(private chat)
[15:36] Visitor: I see, so how do u make a living?
[15:36] Teoalida: what do you mean?
[15:36] Visitor: U have another job?
[15:37] Visitor: what u do when u are not online?
[15:38] Teoalida: I live with parents money
[15:38] Teoalida: but I have own money too from part-time work

[15:38] Visitor: i see, semi-retired?
[15:41] Teoalida: How old do you think that I am?
[15:41] Visitor: I would say 22
[15:41] Teoalida: how I could be retired at this age?
[15:42] Teoalida: You’re near… I’m 24, but I am surprised how many people think about 40+ due of my knowledge

Another one asking same question but does not seems to be interested in my services

Country: Czech
Page URL: https://www.teoalida.com/about/aboutme/

Chat started on Sunday, January 06, 2019 9:55:29 AM

(9:55:29 AM) *** Visitor 54785186 has joined the chat ***
(9:55:31 AM) Teoalida (site owner): Hi there… may I know what are you looking for? If you need any help or just want to talk about what is on website, drop here a message!
(9:55:53 AM) Visitor 54785186: what do you do for a living?
(9:56:08 AM) *** Teoalida has joined the chat ***
(9:56:13 AM) Teoalida: a variety of stuff seen on website
(9:56:30 AM) Teoalida: do you have any business proposal?
(9:56:38 AM) Visitor 54785186: cool…nice to be able to make money online 🙂
(10:00:28 AM) Teoalida: you remind me of https://www.teoalida.com/offtopic/chat-2012-12-12/ – starting chat with same question like yours, gave me impression of a curious kid so I replied informally, but actually was a customer looking to do business with me and I LOST him
(10:05:40 AM) *** Visitor 54785186 has left ***

Funny singlish with Lim Pei

There’s IMPOSSIBLE to read this chat without laughing…
That’s a truly funny singaporean english. Using lots of words that I do not understand, including the overused ARH and LIM BEI words which at end I figured that may have been his name.

Funiest parts in RED!

 

Chat started on Sunday, January 04, 2015 5:16:54 PM
Country: Singapore

(5:16:54 PM) *** Visitor has joined the chat ***
(5:16:55 PM) Visitor: Anyone alive
(5:17:17 PM) Visitor: Wah got so good website got chat somemore
(5:17:25 PM) Visitor: Testing 123
(5:18:04 PM) Auto-respond: The human is probably busy or out of office for a moment. Please wait few minutes or leave your email address where to reply you when I come back! (auto-respond if nobody pick up the chat in 60 sec)
(5:18:36 PM) Visitor: Haha fake one lah
(5:18:41 PM) Visitor: Bye
(5:19:01 PM) *** Teoalida has joined the chat ***
(5:19:10 PM) Teoalida: I’m here now
(5:19:16 PM) Teoalida: what fake???
(5:19:44 PM) Visitor: Confirm bo
(5:19:50 PM) Visitor: Real one meh
(5:19:59 PM) Teoalida: Your messages are funny.. testing, right? you want nothing serious from me?
(5:19:59 PM) Visitor: Computer lah
(5:20:14 PM) Visitor: Must be some scripts
(5:20:24 PM) Teoalida: what scripts do you see?
(5:20:34 PM) Visitor: Computer scripts lah
(5:21:14 PM) Teoalida: the only thing that may be called script is auto-respond… similar with phone answering machine
(5:21:44 PM) Visitor: Icic

(5:21:54 PM) Visitor: Why your website the bto projects
(5:22:00 PM) Visitor: Never put picture
(5:22:11 PM) Visitor: So we can trace back the projects ma
(5:22:40 PM) Teoalida: what do you suggest? going with photo camera on streets and take 200 photos one for every BTO?
(5:22:47 PM) Visitor: No la
(5:22:54 PM) Visitor: Use the hdb one
(5:23:03 PM) Visitor: Those project sales one
(5:23:10 PM) Visitor: Artist impressions
(5:23:36 PM) Visitor: Lidat at least we know the project design ma
(5:23:39 PM) Teoalida: hmm… is nice to display HDB photos on my website?
(5:23:45 PM) Teoalida: without permission?
(5:23:58 PM) Visitor: ai ya u not doing business also wat
(5:24:09 PM) Visitor: U jus providing info
(5:24:12 PM) Teoalida: maybe HDB photos are free to use as other sites posted too
(5:24:22 PM) Visitor: Ya lor
(5:24:39 PM) Teoalida: but this will overload my website, so many photos, what is the purpose of that?
(5:25:04 PM) Teoalida: if I post artist impressions, tomorrow someone will want floor plans too, other one wants prices, and so on
(5:25:09 PM) Visitor: More detailed information for us
(5:25:26 PM) Visitor: Remember few years back got one guy tell u
(5:25:27 PM) Teoalida: Do I have time to do all these? voluntarily?
(5:25:49 PM) Teoalida: ai ya u not doing business also wat – what business do you suggest? I already have a business
(5:26:11 PM) Visitor: Tao ching road have good protential
(5:26:23 PM) Visitor: Now become lakelife ec lor
(5:26:41 PM) Visitor: Ownhome.sg
(5:26:49 PM) Visitor: Like ur challenger wor
(5:26:56 PM) Teoalida: Did you contacted me few years ago? or at least visited website?
(5:26:57 PM) Visitor: Go everywhere take pics
(5:27:10 PM) Visitor: Ya chat with u gere
(5:27:13 PM) Visitor: here lah
(5:27:28 PM) Visitor: Dunno real person or computer script
(5:27:41 PM) Teoalida: I added the chat 3 years ago
(5:27:58 PM) Teoalida: talked with 5000 people in this time… which one were you?
(5:28:08 PM) Teoalida: https://ownhome.sg/ SSL connection error
(5:28:10 PM) Visitor: Link to your ho arh
(5:28:25 PM) Teoalida: read more there www.teoalida.com/about/chatting-with-website-visitors
(5:28:28 PM) Visitor: Your handphone arh
(5:28:40 PM) Teoalida: I don’t understand
(5:28:44 PM) Visitor: Ownhome.sg soon will be ready again
(5:28:54 PM) Teoalida: your messages are not just random and funny… but also full of grammar mistakes
(5:29:12 PM) Visitor: Lim bei go sleep liao
(5:29:16 PM) Visitor: Bye bye
(5:29:44 PM) Visitor: Good bye computer script
(5:30:04 PM) Teoalida: remember that all HDB-related pages are written and compiled voluntarily… I also have a business thus cannot spend too much time for voluntary jobs
(5:30:15 PM) Visitor: Ic
(5:30:39 PM) Visitor: Ok Lim Bei said thank you and good night
(5:30:45 PM) Teoalida: And look in www.teoalida.com/about/chatting-with-website-visitors before saying anythin funny again

(5:31:22 PM) Visitor: Not Found

The requested URL /about/chatting-with-website-visitors was not found on this server.

Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
(5:31:32 PM) Visitor: Lim Bei cannot access
(5:31:54 PM) Teoalida: Works at me
(5:32:06 PM) Visitor: Okok sleepy ready
(5:32:12 PM) Visitor: already
(5:32:19 PM) Visitor: Thanks for your efforts
(5:32:31 PM) Visitor: Lim Bei jio u drink coffee next time
(5:33:06 PM) Teoalida: what is this Lim Bei… you repeat too much
(5:34:13 PM) Teoalida: https://www.teoalida.com/about/ this works? click the second post Chatting with website visitors
(5:34:17 PM) Visitor: Lim Pei lah

(5:34:37 PM) Visitor: 1
Lim pei
Literally means “your father” in hokkien

But most commonly used to refer to oneself.
Lim pei tell you, i’m always right. Dont Kao Bei Kao Bu so much!
by shinjiono January 24, 2008
24 2 SHOP
(5:34:59 PM) Visitor: Understand what lim pei trying to said
(5:35:32 PM) Teoalida: NO! your messages are too random and FUNNY
(5:36:24 PM) Teoalida: Did you contacted me for solo purpose of making a funny chat to be posted in Funny chats section?
(5:36:31 PM) Visitor: Why u not happy with Lim Pei arh
(5:36:43 PM) Visitor: Lim Pei cannot bid for bto lah
(5:36:56 PM) Visitor: Cannot read bto stuffs arh

(5:37:11 PM) Visitor: Anyway why so project very fast
(5:37:19 PM) Visitor: Why some project very slow
(5:37:42 PM) Visitor: Why some project fast
(5:38:20 PM) Teoalida: Which is slow and which is fast? all BTOs are built at same speed
(5:38:26 PM) Teoalida: condos are built faster
(5:38:35 PM) Visitor: Why some bto on the same exercise
(5:38:42 PM) Visitor: Finish faster
(5:38:49 PM) Visitor: Then Lim Pei house so slow
(5:38:51 PM) Teoalida: because some are 15-storey and others are 40-storey?
(5:39:05 PM) Visitor: Arh
(5:39:22 PM) Teoalida: Where did you applied?
(5:39:59 PM) Visitor: Keat hong mirage
(5:40:10 PM) Visitor: Why 2016 q3
(5:40:18 PM) Visitor: Then some q2
(5:40:59 PM) Teoalida: different block height!
(5:41:13 PM) Visitor: Why the sunshine on jan 2012 now going to finish already.. Only 3 years
(5:41:21 PM) Teoalida: BTOs with basement carparks may also take more
(5:41:24 PM) Teoalida: or Premium ones
(5:42:02 PM) Visitor: Lim pei felt very unfair
(5:42:23 PM) Visitor: Should finish all same time same day
(5:43:31 PM) Teoalida: Construction speed may be affected by lots of things, weather, workers off days, etc, what would be the purpose of finishing all in same day?
(5:43:37 PM) Visitor: Lim pei will vote workers party for this so they will build faster
(5:43:55 PM) Visitor: They not sleeping arh
(5:44:18 PM) Visitor: Purpose – fair lah everyone get key same day
(5:45:17 PM) Visitor: Anyway my keat hong mirage not bad arh
(5:45:26 PM) Visitor: Got fastfood somemore
(5:45:34 PM) Visitor: Hdb seldom built fastfood
(5:45:43 PM) Visitor: Cos worry singaporean get fatter
(5:46:08 PM) Visitor: Computer script u sleep already arh
(5:46:15 PM) Visitor: Spoilt already
(5:46:26 PM) Visitor: Sot liao
(5:46:32 PM) Teoalida: ARH what does mean?
(5:46:53 PM) Visitor: Lim pei said
(5:47:12 PM) Visitor: Hdb builting fastfood resturant at keat hong mirage
(5:47:23 PM) Visitor: And hdb seldom buid that
(5:47:34 PM) Visitor: Cos worry singaporean get fatter
(5:48:44 PM) *** Visitor has left ***

Chat started on Sunday, January 04, 2015 5:51:44 PM

(5:51:44 PM) *** Visitor has joined the chat ***
(5:51:44 PM) Visitor: Good night
(5:51:50 PM) *** Teoalida has joined the chat ***
(5:52:00 PM) Teoalida: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/25/Pinnacle@Duxton_construction.JPG explain me why there’s height differences?
(5:52:24 PM) Teoalida: and stop complaining about construction speed differences between different BTO projects
(5:52:32 PM) *** Visitor has left ***

Housing statistics

Per total, 53% of housing are owner-occupied. Is hard for me to make estimation about average apartment size in Hong Kong or about the ratio sqm per person, due to lack of detailed statistics about housing system, high income inequality, many people living in extremely small 1-room apartments, illegally-divided apartments, as well as boathouses, caged homes, rooftop huts and other forms of inhumane homes.

Public housing

Public Rental Housing (usually having “Estate” at end of name) have flats usually 20-60 sqm, but a small number of flats are even 8 sqm (internal floor area).

Home Ownership Scheme (usually having “Court” at end of name) have flats usually 30-60 sqm but a small number of flats are 19 sqm (saleable floor area).

Private Sector Participation Scheme (usually having “Garden” or “Terrace” at end of name) have flats usually 35-70 sqm (saleable floor area).

Tenants Purchase Scheme are usually 20-65 sqm, but a small number of flats are even 8 sqm (which floor area?).

The biggest public flats are located in Melody Garden and Neptune Terrace, being 80 sqm (saleable floor area).

PRH and non-purchased TPS flats houses 31% of population, while HOS, PSPS and TPS houses 17% of population.

As 2011, Housing Authority have exactly 400 estates under management, of which 204 PRH/TPS and 196 HOS/PSPS.

According Housing Authority Annual Report 2010, as 31 March 2010 were 703,608 PRH flats and 437,184 of HOS/PSPS/TPS flats.

PRH flats comprised 679,822 households, average of 2.95 people, 12.6 sqm per person. This means average flat size of 36.5 sqm.

Housing Authority do not provide information about how many people live in HOS/PSPS/TPS flats but I estimate their average flat size around 45-50 sqm.

Private housing

Private housing in Hong Kong include tenement buildings, stand-alone buildings, private housing estates, villas and village houses. Flat sizes are sometimes even smaller than Home Ownership Courts, since most flats are aimed to same group of low-income people like public housing, and private developers are desperate to fit as many units is possible under permissible gross floor area. The difference are the facilities: swimming pools, security guards, and large private estates have shopping centres at first floors (some public housing estates also inclide commercial space).

There are NO official statistics about average size of private housing. No wonder that may be under average HOS flat size.
Old apartments (1960s) are bigger than today ones, many of them were subdivided illegally into 10-15 sqm units or even smaller. Since this is illegal, nobody track the size of them.

According khournal.org, over 90% of Hong Kong families today live in homes smaller than 700 square feet (65 sqm).

Some statistics about private housing, especially about prices, counts only apartments less than 70 sqm. Probably that is the limit over which the price per square foot increase like crazy.

Some private developments contain apartments big as 200-500 sqm, they being some of the most expensive apartments of the world. Example: Most expensive in June 2008, Most expensive in Oct 2009.

Distribution of Population by Type of Housing

Year (as 31 March) 2000 2005 2010
Mid-year Population 6,665,000 6,813,000 7,061,000
Public Permanent Housing 50.7 48.5 47.5
– Rental Flats 35.1 30.1 29.7
– Subsidized Sale Flats 15.6 18.4 17.8
Private Permanent Housing 47.9 50.6 51.6
Public Temporary Housing 0.1
Private Temporary Housing 1.3 0.9 0.9

Land Domestic Households

Year (as 31 March) 2000 2005 2010
Public Permanent Housing 47.8 46.4 46.5
– Rental Flats 33.3 29.8 30.1
– Subsidized Sale Flats 14.5 16.6 16.4
Private Permanent Housing 50.5 52.4 52.4
Public Temporary Housing 0.1
Private Temporary Housing 1.6 1.3 1.1

Average Domestic Household Size

Year (as 31 March) 2000 2005 2010
Public Permanent Housing 3.5 3.2 3.0
– Average household size in Public Rental Housing 3.5 3.1 2.9
– Average Living Space per Person in PRH estates 10.4 sqm 11.7 sqm 12.6 sqm
– Average PRH flat size (calculated) 36.4 sqm 36.3 sqm 36.5 sqm
– Average household size in Subsidized Sale Flats 3.5 3.4 3.2
Average household size in Private Permanent Housing 3.1 2.9 2.9
Average household size in Public Temporary Housing 2.3
Average household size in Private Temporary Housing 2.7 2.3 2.4

Stock of Permanent Residential Flats

Year (as 31 March) 2000 2005 2010
Overall 2115 2408 2537
Public Housing 1016 1096 1135
– HA PRH Flats 651 661 674
– Housing Authority Interim Housing Flats 4 8 5
– Housing Society Rental Flats 33 33 34
– Housing Authority Subsidized Sale Flats 310 368 376
– Housing Society Subsidized Sale Flats 19 18 17
Private Housing 1099 1312 1401

Source of above data: http://www.housingauthority.gov.hk/hdw/content/document/en/aboutus/resources/statistics/HIF2010.pdf.
Updated data for 2012: http://www.housingauthority.gov.hk/en/common/pdf/about-us/publications-and-statistics/HIF.pdf.

See also:
Detailed housing database in Excel format
Explanation of gross vs saleable floor areas

Note: instead of updating (replacing the numbers) of the above table, I think about making a new larger table, based by people’s feedback. Please leave comments and suggestions regarding what statistics are you looking for!