An architect having fun

Someone made a joke with Indian outsourcing in SketchUp then disclosed that is an architect from United States. I don’t understand why he accused me “are you trying to troll me?

Country: United States
Page URL:

Chat started on Tuesday, July 03, 2018 10:14:28 AM

(10:14:28 AM) *** Visitor 18194036 has joined the chat ***
(10:14:30 AM) Teoalida (site owner): Hi there… may I know what are you looking for? If you need any help, drop here a message!
(10:25:11 AM) Visitor: hi
(10:25:20 AM) *** Teoalida has joined the chat ***
(10:25:21 AM) Teoalida: what’s up
(10:25:40 AM) Visitor: how are you tonight?
(10:26:01 AM) Teoalida: working as everyday, who are you? returning customer?
(10:27:04 AM) Visitor: My name is Adhbar, and I am contacting you from India to offer you CAD services in a new and revolutionary software called SketchUp.
(10:27:28 AM) Teoalida: did we talked before?
(10:27:44 AM) Visitor: I don’t think so, sir
(10:27:52 AM) Teoalida: weird, you addressed like a returning customer
(10:28:20 AM) Teoalida: and why I would hire someone working in “revolutionary software” SketchUp when I am myself using AutoCAD for 20 years?
(10:28:32 AM) Visitor: LOL
(10:28:38 AM) Visitor: I’m kidding you
(10:28:56 AM) Visitor: My name is Daniel and I’ located in Houston, Texas
(10:29:22 AM) Teoalida: if you can learn AutoCAD and architecture I can give you part of my works
(10:29:24 AM) Visitor: I found your articles on Indian spammers because I am struggling with the same problem
(10:29:41 AM) Visitor: I am an Architect myself
(10:30:11 AM) Visitor: I’ve been using AutoCAD for 20 years as well
(10:30:54 AM) Teoalida: do you managed to earn any significant sum of money from this kind of jobs?
(10:31:12 AM) Visitor: Yes
(10:31:31 AM) Teoalida: how much are you earning?
(10:31:57 AM) Teoalida: and how do you find customers? do you have a website to promote your services? do you get contacted by customers wasting your time looking for free services like at me?
(10:32:49 AM) Visitor: Where are you located?
(10:33:06 AM) Teoalida: Romania
(10:33:15 AM) Teoalida: how I can contact you? any email or skype?
(10:33:21 AM) Teoalida: BRB 5 min
(10:34:02 AM) Visitor: Are you trying to troll me?
(10:34:46 AM) Teoalida: why do you call troll?
(10:35:09 AM) Visitor: I am reading your article about how to deal with Indian spammers
(10:35:21 AM) Teoalida:
(10:35:21 AM) Teoalida: BRB
(10:35:23 AM) Visitor: Maybe you think I am an Indian spammer
(10:39:17 AM) Visitor: Have a good night. Thanks for the information on how to deal with Indiands
(10:39:20 AM) Teoalida: i
(10:39:23 AM) Visitor: Indians*
(10:39:29 AM) Teoalida: I understand that you are an architect and being spammed by indians
(10:39:33 AM) Teoalida: I am not calling you a spammer
(10:39:51 AM) Teoalida: I am asking how successful is your experience in architecture
(10:40:07 AM) Visitor: It is quite successful
(10:40:20 AM) Teoalida: because mine was a failure
(10:40:26 AM) Teoalida: how did you made it successful?
(10:40:27 AM) Visitor: I won’t disclose my income, though
(10:40:47 AM) Visitor: Are you a graduated architect?
(10:41:09 AM) Teoalida: Let me disclose my income… 5000 USD earned in 4 years in which I offered architecture services
(10:41:23 AM) Teoalida: and now I am earning from IT same sum, but per month
(10:42:30 AM) Teoalida: I am not graduated, well this isn’t a problem. The main problem is that 9 of 10 people who contacted me wanted floor plans for FREE!!!
(10:42:54 AM) Visitor: Yes, I know how that works
(10:42:56 AM) Teoalida: so I am asking if you have a website similar with mine
(10:43:10 AM) Visitor: So you’re not doing architecture anymore?
(10:43:18 AM) Teoalida: because making a website like this + live chat made me filled up by indians wasting my time looking for free services
(10:43:44 AM) Teoalida: the PAYING customers were another problem, most wanted so many revisions for their project that I never enjoyed architecture job
(10:44:03 AM) Teoalida: read full story
(10:44:14 AM) Teoalida: if you want some US projects from me let me know
(10:45:45 AM) Teoalida: also do you happen to know who is this? , also any opinions about this chat is welcome
(10:47:59 AM) Teoalida: One of the architects that I employed is from Philippines and he earn $2000 per month after 20+ years of career, he PROVED how poorly is paid architecture and convinced me to quit job, can you prove that architecture is well paid?
(10:53:30 AM) Teoalida: how long takes to design a house in average? how do you deal with customers who change mind often and ask 10+ revisions for a house?
(10:55:12 AM) *** Visitor 18194036 has left ***

The funny idiot call me robot

Talking for 5 min and still believing that he is talking with a ROBOT!

Real robots reply fixed messages based by certain words.
How to identify chat bots: write single-word messages with bad grammar (robots would not understand), or repeat same question (robots would repeat too).

23 May 2012:
Website address:
Chat transcript:
(14:08:20)  Teoalida Hello, as the website admin, I made this chat to can talk with visitors … Do you enjoy my website or have any questions? Reply here to start a live chat with me!
(14:08:20)  Visitor Hello.
(14:08:38)  Visitor Are you alive?

He closed chat window in 20 sec, faster that I could answer

24 May 2012:
Website address:

Chat transcript:
(16:23:41) Teoalida Hello, I am not a robot, I am the website admin, I made this chat to can talk with Visitors … How I can help you? Do you have any questions? Reply here to start a live chat with me!
(16:23:41) Visitor Is this thing automated?
(16:23:51) Visitor Hello?
(16:23:55) Teoalida What to be automated?
(16:24:06) Visitor Are you a real person?
(16:24:12) Teoalida What do you think?
(16:24:19) Teoalida C’mon test me
(16:24:32) Visitor What is your hair color?
(16:24:44) Teoalida black, why matters that?
(16:25:12) Visitor How black is it? Pure black or with a slight grayish tint to it?
(16:25:30) Teoalida aka brunette
(16:26:01) Visitor How often do you log in?
(16:26:12) Teoalida where to log in?
(16:26:21) Teoalida I am online every evening
(16:26:25) Visitor How often do you use the computer? Do you sleep?
(16:26:34) Teoalida But what is all this…
(16:26:43) Teoalida How old are you?
(16:26:55) Teoalida Are you still believe that you talk with a robot?
(16:27:27) Visitor An artifically intelligent robot.
(16:27:53) Teoalida Visitors of all other pages talk with me normally…. only Visitors of Gaming-related pages ignore the chat pop-up or behave crazy
Live chat transcript times in GMT.

He disconnected while I was typing, explaining him how the chat works. Maybe I shall give a link, to check, maybe he would understand.


Incredible! Same person came back on 3 Nov 2012, causing another funny crazy chat… calling me NO-LIFER that sits at computer 24/24 just because I was online when he visited me 3 times at SAME time of day.
So, who visit me when I am online call me no-lifer, who visit me while I sleep, may not believe that someone WILL be ever online!
Dear idiots, please visit me in morning, evening and night, before saying that I sit at computer 24/24.

ANGRY Filipino customer

How I can help someone addressing me cursing words?
I try to be nice even with the angry people because some people may swear me then turn into customers (example), but the following one keep swearing me that I can’t help… is not clear what help he needed.

Note: I have no proof that he is from Philippines, I assume this, because he asked me if I am filipino, but mispelled, thus he may be a foreigner interested in Philippines. Also people from Philippines are generally nice, in 2 years of business he remains the only one who insulted me.

Thursday, 15 May, 2014
Country: Saudi Arabia
Page URL:
[17:41] (trigger): Hello from website admin! If you need any help or just wanna chat, drop here a message!
[17:41] Visitor: fuck you
[17:41] Teoalida has joined the conversation
[17:41] Teoalida: reason?
[17:42] Visitor: i cant find a good plan for a flat
[17:42] Teoalida: Sorry but this is not a reason to swear, you could ask me instead
[17:42] Visitor: with c.m
[17:42] Teoalida: which flat are you talking about?
[17:43] Visitor: your mothers
[17:43] Teoalida: Certain HDB flat… or are you real estate developer?
[17:43] Teoalida: building own apartment block?
[17:43] Visitor: where are you?
[17:44] Teoalida: Singapore, why?
(NOTE: so far he clicked 8 floor plans of Singapore HDB flats show on my website, so I though that he is singaporean asking for floor plan of a HDB flat)
[17:44] Visitor: are you a real person
[17:44] Visitor: ?
[17:44] Teoalida: C’mon what is wrong with you?
[17:45] Teoalida: Let me know how I can help you
[17:45] Visitor: i know you are a mistake i told your mother to take pells
[17:45] Teoalida: I don’t see the point of these questions
[17:46] Visitor: you are a felepino
[17:46] Teoalida: filipino?
[17:46] Visitor: i hate engineering there i hate you too
[17:47] Visitor: u r girl or boy?
[17:47] Teoalida: I am not from Philippines but for your info: I have designed few buildings in Philippines, about half of customers contacted me from Middle East countries
[17:48] Teoalida: but in Middle East are also indians and singaporeans asking me about HDB flats
[17:48] Teoalida: in case you are from Philippines looking for apartment plans to build… why you don’t say this from first time?
[17:48] Teoalida: What is all this rude language?
[17:48] Teoalida: See
[17:49] Visitor: so where can i find an apartment with five spaces in c.m just an example please
[17:49] *** Visitor is now viewing ***
[17:49] Teoalida: 5-room apartment?
[17:49] Teoalida: or 5 apartments in one building?
[17:49] Visitor: no just five spaces
[17:50] Visitor: no no one apartment only
[17:50] Visitor: with five spaces
[17:51] Teoalida: something like these?
[17:51] Visitor: are these in c.m
[17:51] Teoalida: five spaces in c.m – what is C.M ?
[17:52] Visitor: canti meters
[17:52] Teoalida: what is CANTI? I show the rooms size in SQUARE meters
[17:52] Teoalida: anyway, if you want to help you with a apartment design, I need land dimensions (length and width)
[17:53] Visitor: thank you ,you didnt help with anythink dickhead
[17:54] Visitor: whats your instagram account??
[17:54] Teoalida: and YOU didn’t asked me anything clear… just swearing
[17:54] Teoalida: I don’t use instagram
[17:54] Visitor: what do u ude?
[17:54] Visitor: use***
[17:54] Teoalida: use for…?
[17:55] Teoalida: Yahoo and Gtalk are enough for communication
[17:55] Teoalida: Images are hosted on my own server
[17:55] Visitor: no i mean for social life friends and bitches??
[17:56] Visitor: do u wanna go to a nightclub stripclup??
[17:56] Teoalida: Social life means face-to-face, no? how I can use a software
[17:56] Teoalida: I chat with real life friends via Yahoo messenger, eventually Facebook
[17:56] Visitor: seriously !!!!
[17:56] Teoalida: if that’s what do you ask
[17:56] Teoalida: but let’s stop kidding
[17:56] Visitor: see you in hell
[17:57] Teoalida: Your behavior give impression of a kid browsing random websites to swear the owners…. not like a customer
[17:58] Teoalida: I am in DOUBT if anyone will help you if you address with such language
[17:58] Visitor has left the conversation

What this guy wants from me?

What does this person wanted from me!!!???
Every day, I am contacted by few people from Singapore for info about HDB and chit-chat, I am also contacted by people all around the world for architecture / CAD design services.
I differentiate customers by chit-chatters by the way they address me and by what pages they click.
Look how THIS guy is addressing me!! Sometimes I mistreat chit-chatters as potential customers, but could be this a potential customer, mistreat as chit-chatter and lost?

Who’s attitude is rudest? my one or visitor’s one? Please leave comments!

Wednesday, 12 Dec, 2012
Country: Singapore
Page URL: http:/
[3:34] Teoalida (trigger): Hello from website admin! Can I help you with anything? drop here a message!
[3:42] Visitor: Hi. What do you do for a living?
[3:42] Teoalida has joined the conversation
[3:42] Teoalida: Are you curious how I earn money?
[3:42] Teoalida: so far I eat parents money, trying to start own business
[3:43] Visitor: I see. I am looking at your website, so thinking of what do u do actually.

[3:43] Teoalida: Nice
[3:44] Teoalida: I am curious too, what others understand about me just by seeing website?
[3:44] Visitor: do you do design for people?
[3:44] Teoalida: yes and this is main income forme (typo: for me)
[3:44] Visitor: I do not know you, so can only understand from your website
[3:46] Visitor: how old are you anyway?
[3:47] Teoalida: you’re in About me page and didn’t saw my age?
[3:47] Teoalida: but that is good, try giving me an age!
[3:47] Teoalida: I am surprised how broad range was other’s guess
[3:49] Visitor: Hmm. Good luck in your venture.
[3:50] Visitor: Not keen in engaing your services from the way you speak. Thanks.
[3:50] Teoalida: Do you have any suggestions? at this moment my business does not work as I imagined
[3:51] Teoalida: from the way I talk? did I made any mistake?
[3:51] Visitor: See ya!
[3:51] Visitor has left the conversation
[3:51] Teoalida: Explain me…. and btw, people looking for my services are NOT asking such questions like you, so I talk differently
[3:51] * You are not in a chat *


I am sorry for being an IDIOT when I said “I eat parents money“, shall say that I am “unemployed, just a little freelancing“, but after showing this chat to 2 friends, both said that the visitor is a BIGGER IDIOT, is totally RUDE to start a chat by asking about personal life! And that is OK to post it on website as funny-stupid chats.

What do I should answer to such people asking “what I do for a living” or saying that “know nothing about me“?
You should ask me whatever do you want and you will see if I can help you regardless of my job (see another funny chat – visitor left because I do not have the job that he thought).
In the same time, I need to know if my website show a correct image about what I am doing, asking such questions or playing “guess my age” with customers NOT recommended, so I do such surveys with chit-chaters. I usually tell my age AFTER I offer what he/she want. Anyway 99% of the visitors using chat do not even ask about age. PS: my age was public in About Me page (deleted soon afterwards), but he may not have read entire page.

After this incident, i have reviewed my style of chatting and identifying customers, next time when someone ask weird questions I will ask him “What are you looking for?”
I also have rewritten the About me page, let’s hope that now is clear what I am doing.

According visitors statistics, he had 7 visits of my website (or shared IP), looking for Singapore HDB floor plans, then clicked About Me, other 8 pages including 2 Funny Chats, then clicked Car Database and started the chat. He did not clicked any page under Design section.
Probably he was surprised to see a Car Database on same website with Singapore real estate, that is why asked me what I actually do…
Not engaging in my services by the way I speak? LOL… was he actually interested in my services?
Real customers interested in my services typically start chatting with “Can you help me…“, “Do you have…” or “I am looking for…” so I speak in different way.


Update: During the following year I has been asked same question “Do you do design for people?” by 2 other people, referring at interior design services. I came in final conclusion that the above guy from 12 December 2012 may have been interested in interior design for a HDB flat , and in this case he would have been my FIRST customer in Singapore and also FIRST customer for interior design services.
I am designer specialized in architecture field so I have customers mostly in booming third-world countries (India, Philippines, etc). In Singapore very few people are rich enough to build houses. On my website I also offer large amount of info about Singapore’s HDB so I expect to be contacted by Singaporeans for HDB-related advices and chit-chat, 99% of them are NOT interested in design services. Considering the RUDE way he addressed me without telling what he is looking for, I did NOT expected that he may be a customer. In the future when someone ask about personal life, I ask what you are looking for, before answering something that may turn customers away.


The following is an example of NORMAL way of chatting

Visitor ask help, I help him, THEN we talk about personal life, and tell him my age. Nobody gets angry.

Wednesday, 20 Mar, 2013
Country: Singapore
Page URL: http:/
[15:02] Teoalida (trigger): Hello from website admin! Can I help you with anything? drop here a message!
[15:04] Visitor: Hi, i would like to request for a particular block floor plan in bukit panjang. Are you able to help?
[15:04] Teoalida has joined the conversation
[15:04] Teoalida: sometimes yes, sometimes no
[15:05] Teoalida: newer block = hard to find
(private chat)
[15:36] Visitor: I see, so how do u make a living?
[15:36] Teoalida: what do you mean?
[15:36] Visitor: U have another job?
[15:37] Visitor: what u do when u are not online?
[15:38] Teoalida: I live with parents money
[15:38] Teoalida: but I have own money too from part-time work

[15:38] Visitor: i see, semi-retired?
[15:41] Teoalida: How old do you think that I am?
[15:41] Visitor: I would say 22
[15:41] Teoalida: how I could be retired at this age?
[15:42] Teoalida: You’re near… I’m 24, but I am surprised how many people think about 40+ due of my knowledge

Another one asking same question but does not seems to be interested in my services

Country: Czech
Page URL:

Chat started on Sunday, January 06, 2019 9:55:29 AM

(9:55:29 AM) *** Visitor 54785186 has joined the chat ***
(9:55:31 AM) Teoalida (site owner): Hi there… may I know what are you looking for? If you need any help or just want to talk about what is on website, drop here a message!
(9:55:53 AM) Visitor 54785186: what do you do for a living?
(9:56:08 AM) *** Teoalida has joined the chat ***
(9:56:13 AM) Teoalida: a variety of stuff seen on website
(9:56:30 AM) Teoalida: do you have any business proposal?
(9:56:38 AM) Visitor 54785186: cool…nice to be able to make money online 🙂
(10:00:28 AM) Teoalida: you remind me of – starting chat with same question like yours, gave me impression of a curious kid so I replied informally, but actually was a customer looking to do business with me and I LOST him
(10:05:40 AM) *** Visitor 54785186 has left ***

Funny singlish with Lim Pei

There’s IMPOSSIBLE to read this chat without laughing…
That’s a truly funny singaporean english. Using lots of words that I do not understand, including the overused ARH and LIM BEI words which at end I figured that may have been his name.

Funiest parts in RED!


Chat started on Sunday, January 04, 2015 5:16:54 PM
Country: Singapore

(5:16:54 PM) *** Visitor has joined the chat ***
(5:16:55 PM) Visitor: Anyone alive
(5:17:17 PM) Visitor: Wah got so good website got chat somemore
(5:17:25 PM) Visitor: Testing 123
(5:18:04 PM) Auto-respond: The human is probably busy or out of office for a moment. Please wait few minutes or leave your email address where to reply you when I come back! (auto-respond if nobody pick up the chat in 60 sec)
(5:18:36 PM) Visitor: Haha fake one lah
(5:18:41 PM) Visitor: Bye
(5:19:01 PM) *** Teoalida has joined the chat ***
(5:19:10 PM) Teoalida: I’m here now
(5:19:16 PM) Teoalida: what fake???
(5:19:44 PM) Visitor: Confirm bo
(5:19:50 PM) Visitor: Real one meh
(5:19:59 PM) Teoalida: Your messages are funny.. testing, right? you want nothing serious from me?
(5:19:59 PM) Visitor: Computer lah
(5:20:14 PM) Visitor: Must be some scripts
(5:20:24 PM) Teoalida: what scripts do you see?
(5:20:34 PM) Visitor: Computer scripts lah
(5:21:14 PM) Teoalida: the only thing that may be called script is auto-respond… similar with phone answering machine
(5:21:44 PM) Visitor: Icic

(5:21:54 PM) Visitor: Why your website the bto projects
(5:22:00 PM) Visitor: Never put picture
(5:22:11 PM) Visitor: So we can trace back the projects ma
(5:22:40 PM) Teoalida: what do you suggest? going with photo camera on streets and take 200 photos one for every BTO?
(5:22:47 PM) Visitor: No la
(5:22:54 PM) Visitor: Use the hdb one
(5:23:03 PM) Visitor: Those project sales one
(5:23:10 PM) Visitor: Artist impressions
(5:23:36 PM) Visitor: Lidat at least we know the project design ma
(5:23:39 PM) Teoalida: hmm… is nice to display HDB photos on my website?
(5:23:45 PM) Teoalida: without permission?
(5:23:58 PM) Visitor: ai ya u not doing business also wat
(5:24:09 PM) Visitor: U jus providing info
(5:24:12 PM) Teoalida: maybe HDB photos are free to use as other sites posted too
(5:24:22 PM) Visitor: Ya lor
(5:24:39 PM) Teoalida: but this will overload my website, so many photos, what is the purpose of that?
(5:25:04 PM) Teoalida: if I post artist impressions, tomorrow someone will want floor plans too, other one wants prices, and so on
(5:25:09 PM) Visitor: More detailed information for us
(5:25:26 PM) Visitor: Remember few years back got one guy tell u
(5:25:27 PM) Teoalida: Do I have time to do all these? voluntarily?
(5:25:49 PM) Teoalida: ai ya u not doing business also wat – what business do you suggest? I already have a business
(5:26:11 PM) Visitor: Tao ching road have good protential
(5:26:23 PM) Visitor: Now become lakelife ec lor
(5:26:41 PM) Visitor:
(5:26:49 PM) Visitor: Like ur challenger wor
(5:26:56 PM) Teoalida: Did you contacted me few years ago? or at least visited website?
(5:26:57 PM) Visitor: Go everywhere take pics
(5:27:10 PM) Visitor: Ya chat with u gere
(5:27:13 PM) Visitor: here lah
(5:27:28 PM) Visitor: Dunno real person or computer script
(5:27:41 PM) Teoalida: I added the chat 3 years ago
(5:27:58 PM) Teoalida: talked with 5000 people in this time… which one were you?
(5:28:08 PM) Teoalida: SSL connection error
(5:28:10 PM) Visitor: Link to your ho arh
(5:28:25 PM) Teoalida: read more there
(5:28:28 PM) Visitor: Your handphone arh
(5:28:40 PM) Teoalida: I don’t understand
(5:28:44 PM) Visitor: soon will be ready again
(5:28:54 PM) Teoalida: your messages are not just random and funny… but also full of grammar mistakes
(5:29:12 PM) Visitor: Lim bei go sleep liao
(5:29:16 PM) Visitor: Bye bye
(5:29:44 PM) Visitor: Good bye computer script
(5:30:04 PM) Teoalida: remember that all HDB-related pages are written and compiled voluntarily… I also have a business thus cannot spend too much time for voluntary jobs
(5:30:15 PM) Visitor: Ic
(5:30:39 PM) Visitor: Ok Lim Bei said thank you and good night
(5:30:45 PM) Teoalida: And look in before saying anythin funny again

(5:31:22 PM) Visitor: Not Found

The requested URL /about/chatting-with-website-visitors was not found on this server.

Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
(5:31:32 PM) Visitor: Lim Bei cannot access
(5:31:54 PM) Teoalida: Works at me
(5:32:06 PM) Visitor: Okok sleepy ready
(5:32:12 PM) Visitor: already
(5:32:19 PM) Visitor: Thanks for your efforts
(5:32:31 PM) Visitor: Lim Bei jio u drink coffee next time
(5:33:06 PM) Teoalida: what is this Lim Bei… you repeat too much
(5:34:13 PM) Teoalida: this works? click the second post Chatting with website visitors
(5:34:17 PM) Visitor: Lim Pei lah

(5:34:37 PM) Visitor: 1
Lim pei
Literally means “your father” in hokkien

But most commonly used to refer to oneself.
Lim pei tell you, i’m always right. Dont Kao Bei Kao Bu so much!
by shinjiono January 24, 2008
24 2 SHOP
(5:34:59 PM) Visitor: Understand what lim pei trying to said
(5:35:32 PM) Teoalida: NO! your messages are too random and FUNNY
(5:36:24 PM) Teoalida: Did you contacted me for solo purpose of making a funny chat to be posted in Funny chats section?
(5:36:31 PM) Visitor: Why u not happy with Lim Pei arh
(5:36:43 PM) Visitor: Lim Pei cannot bid for bto lah
(5:36:56 PM) Visitor: Cannot read bto stuffs arh

(5:37:11 PM) Visitor: Anyway why so project very fast
(5:37:19 PM) Visitor: Why some project very slow
(5:37:42 PM) Visitor: Why some project fast
(5:38:20 PM) Teoalida: Which is slow and which is fast? all BTOs are built at same speed
(5:38:26 PM) Teoalida: condos are built faster
(5:38:35 PM) Visitor: Why some bto on the same exercise
(5:38:42 PM) Visitor: Finish faster
(5:38:49 PM) Visitor: Then Lim Pei house so slow
(5:38:51 PM) Teoalida: because some are 15-storey and others are 40-storey?
(5:39:05 PM) Visitor: Arh
(5:39:22 PM) Teoalida: Where did you applied?
(5:39:59 PM) Visitor: Keat hong mirage
(5:40:10 PM) Visitor: Why 2016 q3
(5:40:18 PM) Visitor: Then some q2
(5:40:59 PM) Teoalida: different block height!
(5:41:13 PM) Visitor: Why the sunshine on jan 2012 now going to finish already.. Only 3 years
(5:41:21 PM) Teoalida: BTOs with basement carparks may also take more
(5:41:24 PM) Teoalida: or Premium ones
(5:42:02 PM) Visitor: Lim pei felt very unfair
(5:42:23 PM) Visitor: Should finish all same time same day
(5:43:31 PM) Teoalida: Construction speed may be affected by lots of things, weather, workers off days, etc, what would be the purpose of finishing all in same day?
(5:43:37 PM) Visitor: Lim pei will vote workers party for this so they will build faster
(5:43:55 PM) Visitor: They not sleeping arh
(5:44:18 PM) Visitor: Purpose – fair lah everyone get key same day
(5:45:17 PM) Visitor: Anyway my keat hong mirage not bad arh
(5:45:26 PM) Visitor: Got fastfood somemore
(5:45:34 PM) Visitor: Hdb seldom built fastfood
(5:45:43 PM) Visitor: Cos worry singaporean get fatter
(5:46:08 PM) Visitor: Computer script u sleep already arh
(5:46:15 PM) Visitor: Spoilt already
(5:46:26 PM) Visitor: Sot liao
(5:46:32 PM) Teoalida: ARH what does mean?
(5:46:53 PM) Visitor: Lim pei said
(5:47:12 PM) Visitor: Hdb builting fastfood resturant at keat hong mirage
(5:47:23 PM) Visitor: And hdb seldom buid that
(5:47:34 PM) Visitor: Cos worry singaporean get fatter
(5:48:44 PM) *** Visitor has left ***

Chat started on Sunday, January 04, 2015 5:51:44 PM

(5:51:44 PM) *** Visitor has joined the chat ***
(5:51:44 PM) Visitor: Good night
(5:51:50 PM) *** Teoalida has joined the chat ***
(5:52:00 PM) Teoalida: explain me why there’s height differences?
(5:52:24 PM) Teoalida: and stop complaining about construction speed differences between different BTO projects
(5:52:32 PM) *** Visitor has left ***

Web Design

If you need a little help how to create, improve or optimize a website, feel free to contact me!
If you need someone to create a website from scratch and maintain it full-time in your place, then I am NOT the right person.

I am writing this page in 2013 because some people attempted to hire me to design websites for them… this being quite surprising because previously (until I wrote this page) I DID NOT stated anywhere that I am webdesigner or that I offer webdesign services. Probably they confused graphic design (AutoCAD, architecture, mechanical, technical drawings, etc) with webdesign.

But yes, I can offer web development services too. I am skilled in HTML and CSS, I have high experience in SEO too, earned in 4 years of running this website, 90% of people do not even know these basic stuff, so I would like to help people of anyone need help in this field. Please note that do not know PHP yet, so I may not be able to make custom CMS or other complex websites.

I cannot claim myself a professional web designer… but I made MY website without any professional help, the only external help being the ideas submitted by visitors. I partially participated in websites of other people, by adding content, optimizing, submitting to directories, etc.

Making a website for someone else FROM SCRATCH is difficult especially if you do not give me enough details. In some cases may be better to start yourself the website then contact me to improve its design, do SEO and other kind of promoting.

I also offer:
Article writing (in the domains of my interest), I am a good english writer, able to make original and SEO-friendly articles, optimal keyword density without annoying the reader, read my website to be convinced. No part of my website articles were been copied from anywhere else.
Translator: genuine translations without Google Translator!
Plus a lot of other small services that do not come in my mind at this moment.
Just ask me and I will tell you if I can!

Web design procedure

Try avoiding the companies who spam our emails offering WordPress website development for several hundred dollars, eCommerce website with Paypal integration for several thousand dollars, etc. They just want to get rich and scam the newbies, steal your money and provide what you can do yourself at much cheaper price.

You can have your own WordPress website for FREE on, or if you want more flexibility, download the platform from and install on (free hosting with PHP support), or on a paid hosting for safety (hosting plans starts at about $5 per month). A .com domain name is only $10 per year. There are few eCommerce plugins for WordPress, that may transform your website into a web store, for FREE. So why would you pay several hundred dollars?

I wonder what these Webdesign & SEO companies are actually doing for the large sums of money they are charging. Do they include cost of hosting? Do they write articles in your places? Do they customize WordPress less or more? But do YOU really need a customized, unique, non-standard website? In case you want to make a large online store such as, yes in that case you may need to hire a dedicated web development company.

If I will design a website for someone else than myself, I will breakdown the costs… so you will be able to choose exactly how much service do you want from me and how much to do yourself. Example:

  • I invite you to choose between free hosting and paid hosting, you pay for hosting and give me password.
  • $20 for assistance to install and setup a blank website (if you want to add content yourself)
  • $10 for each page/article you want me to write (but I am afraid that I do not have imagination to write articles outside of architecture, real estate, and gaming fields, maybe is better to let you writing articles)
  • $5 for each image retouching if needed.
  • Some more $ for theme customization.
  • And so on…

After serving few customers, to make sure I am able to design websites, I will decide the prices for future customers, probably higher.

SEO procedure

  • I do not guarantee putting your website on 1st page of Google. This is a phrase used by scammers. No SERIOUS person can guarantee this. In some fields with low competition you can be #1 in Google with minimum of effort, in other fields is impossible a new website to beat the competitors.
  • I do not guarantee 2x, 5x, 10x times increase of traffic. This depends from case to case. If you made a new website without most basic knowledge of SEO, and it gets 10 daily visitors, I may help you to get 50 daily visitors (500% increase), but if your website is already optimal and gets 1000 daily visitors, would be very difficult to get even 10% increase.
  • I focus on On-Page SEO, I do not offer link building services, although this may offer a major increase of traffic on short term, it violates Google guidelines and if done at certain extent, on long term your website will be dropped from search results, BEWARE! Also, emailing other websites asking for link exchange is time-costly job if done manually, major SEO companies have tools that automatically discover email addresses and send bulk mail (and people will report you as SPAM then your email will no longer reach Inbox, when I tried to do for my website I had to email 10 people to receive 1 reply).
  • Do not make 1-page website then ask me to put on 1st page of Google. Write 5 pages of at least few hundreds words then I see what I can do in terms of SEO.
  • If you have time and want to do SEO yourself with my advices, no problem! Unlike dedicated SEO companies who do not disclose their strategy and wants to let your website in their hands, personally I give FREE SEO advices that you can do yourself!

Do you want to see my SEO skills? Search the following keywords on Google

While some companies offer SEO packages for 10, 20, 50 keywords, and spam other websites for backlinks, my website does have few hundred combinations of 2-3 keywords for which it appears on 1st page of Google, I managed to do this myself without paying any kind of SEO services and without spamming for backlinks. Here are the keywords which bring most traffic:

HDB floor plan
floor plan + name of a street from Singapore
3-room / 4-room / 5-room + name of a street from Singapore
List of HDB BTO
BTO list
List of EC
Executive Condominium Singapore
Will HDB prices drop?
Will prices drop in 2017 Singapore?

Hong Kong floor plans

Architecture & Design pages
3-room / 4-bedroom house design
60 / 80 / 100 sqm house design
Malaysia house design
Philippines house design
40 sqm house plan Philippines
house plan 6 meter frontage
narrow house plans

Car Database pages
car database
car models list
vehicle list excel
list of cars csv
car specs excel

Housing statistics

Overall statistics:
Per total, 53% of housing are owner-occupied.
Is hardly for me to make estimation about the average apartment size in Hong Kong or about the ratio sqm per person, due to lack of detailed statistics about housing system, high income inequality, many people living in extremely small 1-room apartments, illegally-divided apartments, as well as boathouses, caged homes, rooftop huts and other forms of inhumane homes.

Public housing:
Public Rental Housing (called Estates) have flats usually 20-60 sqm, but a small number of flats are even 8 sqm (internal floor area).
Home Ownership Scheme (usually called Courts) have flats usually 30-60 sqm but a small number of flats are 19 sqm (saleable floor area).
Private Sector Participation Scheme (usually called Garden or Terrace) have flats usually 35-70 sqm (saleable floor area).
Tenants Purchase Scheme are usually 20-65 sqm, but a small number of flats are even 8 sqm (which floor area?).
The biggest public flats are located in Melody Garden and Neptune Terrace, being 80 sqm (saleable floor area).
PRH and non-purchased TPS flats houses 31% of population, while HOS, PSPS and TPS houses 17% of population.
As 2011, Housing Authority have exactly 400 estates under management, of which 204 PRH/TPS and 196 HOS/PSPS.

According Housing Authority Annual Report 2010, as 31 march 2010 were 703608 PRH flats and 437184 of HOS/PSPS/TPS flats.
PRH flats comprised 679822 households, average of 2.95 people, 12.6 sqm per person. This means average flat size of 36.5 sqm.
They do not provide information about how many people lives in HOS/PSPS/TPS flats but I estimate their average flat size around 45-50 sqm.

Private housing:
Compromises Private Estates (aka condos) and stand-alone buildings, as well as villas and village houses. Flat sizes are sometimes even smaller than Home Ownership Courts, since most flats are aimed to same group of low-income people like public housing, and private developers are desperate to fit as many units is possible in the permissible gross floor area. The difference are the facilities: swimming pools, security guards, etc.

There are NO official statistics about average size of private housing. No wonder that may be under average HOS flat size.
Old apartments (1960s) are bigger than today ones, many of them were subdivided illegally into 10-15 sqm units or even smaller. Since this is illegal, nobody track the size of them.
According this source, over 90% of Hong Kong families today live in homes smaller than 700 square feet (65 sqm).
Some statistics about private housing, especially about prices, counts only apartments less than 70 sqm. Probably that is the step over which price per square foot increase like crazy.
Some private developments contain apartments big as 200-500 sqm, they being some of the most expensive apartments of the world. Example: Most expensive in June 2008, Most expensive in Oct 2009.

Explanation of Gross and Saleable floor areas!

Distribution of Population by Type of Housing

Year (as 31 march) 2000 2005 2010
Mid-year Population 6,665,000 6,813,000 7,061,000
Public Permanent Housing 50.7 48.5 47.5
– Rental Flats 35.1 30.1 29.7
– Subsidized Sale Flats 15.6 18.4 17.8
Private Permanent Housing 47.9 50.6 51.6
Public Temporary Housing 0.1
Private Temporary Housing 1.3 0.9 0.9

Land Domestic Households

Year (as 31 march) 2000 2005 2010
Public Permanent Housing 47.8 46.4 46.5
– Rental Flats 33.3 29.8 30.1
– Subsidized Sale Flats 14.5 16.6 16.4
Private Permanent Housing 50.5 52.4 52.4
Public Temporary Housing 0.1
Private Temporary Housing 1.6 1.3 1.1

Average Domestic Household Size

Year (as 31 march) 2000 2005 2010
Public Permanent Housing 3.5 3.2 3.0
– Average household size in Public Rental Housing 3.5 3.1 2.9
– Average Living Space per Person in PRH estates 10.4 sqm 11.7 sqm 12.6 sqm
– Average PRH flat size (calculated) 36.4 sqm 36.3 sqm 36.5 sqm
– Average household size in Subsidized Sale Flats 3.5 3.4 3.2
Average household size in Private Permanent Housing 3.1 2.9 2.9
Average household size in Public Temporary Housing 2.3
Average household size in Private Temporary Housing 2.7 2.3 2.4

Stock of Permanent Residential Flats

Year (as 31 march) 2000 2005 2010
Overall 2115 2408 2537
Public Housing 1016 1096 1135
– HA PRH Flats 651 661 674
– Housing Authority Interim Housing Flats 4 8 5
– Housing Society Rental Flats 33 33 34
– Housing Authority Subsidized Sale Flats 310 368 376
– Housing Society Subsidized Sale Flats 19 18 17
Private Housing 1099 1312 1401

Source of above data:
Updated data for 2012:

Note: instead of updating (replacing the numbers) of the above table, I think about making a new larger table, based by people’s feedback

What data are you looking for? Please leave comments and suggestions!