Wasting my time (2020-02-22)

I asked him if he wants to purchase a property and he said NO… but continued to talk and ask a lot of questions that I do not see their scope, wasting my time for no reason. It’s funny how the chat ended:

(7:51:44 PM) Teoalida: you talk too much for someone who is not buying anything or paying any service
(7:53:31 PM) Visitor 70957873: the way u talked will lose potential customers
(7:54:30 PM) Teoalida: the way YOU talk very long to me prevent me from doing the projects that customers paid me to do!

Chat started on Saturday, February 22, 2020 7:54:13 PM

(7:54:13 PM) *** Visitor 70957873 has joined the chat ***
(7:54:13 PM) Visitor 70957873: hi
(7:54:19 PM) *** Teoalida has joined the chat ***
(7:54:21 PM) Teoalida: hello
(7:55:16 PM) Visitor 70957873: there isn’t 2rm in the comparison of flat sizes?
(7:55:33 PM) Teoalida: there is, blue line
(7:55:49 PM) Visitor 70957873: where?
(7:55:55 PM) Teoalida: where are you looking?
(7:56:08 PM) Visitor 70957873: https://www.teoalida.com/singapore/hdbflatsizes/
(7:56:21 PM) Teoalida: and here is the chart from 2-room to Executive
(7:56:26 PM) Teoalida: why do you say that 2-room does not exist?
(7:56:54 PM) Visitor 70957873: i mean the floor plan
(7:57:10 PM) Teoalida: then see https://www.teoalida.com/singapore/hdbfloorplans
(7:58:14 PM) Visitor 70957873: how would it be possible for the net area bigger than gross area
(7:58:34 PM) Visitor 70957873: https://www.teoalida.com/singapore/hdbflatsizes/
(7:58:50 PM) Teoalida: oh, do you want me to DESIGN in AutoCAD 2-room flats beside the 3-Room – Executive draw already
(7:59:15 PM) Visitor 70957873: but how would it be possible for the net area bigger than gross area
(8:00:31 PM) Teoalida: I think that number of 2-room is too small to worth adding in comparison… but I can do next update
(8:00:40 PM) Teoalida: also this comparison is for 1980s vs present
(8:00:46 PM) Teoalida: NO 2-room were built in 1980s
(8:01:06 PM) Visitor 70957873: u see the new 3room gross area & net area
(8:01:19 PM) Teoalida: except 4 blocks in Tampines and 1 in Hougang and 1 in Bukit Batok, all rental so no floor plan provided by HDB
(8:01:54 PM) Teoalida: 67.77 vs 81.25 sqm
(8:01:56 PM) Teoalida: my mistake…
(8:02:28 PM) Visitor 70957873: there are old 4room bigger than 110sqm
(8:02:41 PM) Teoalida: another mistak is that 3-Room Model A have black line over main door
(8:03:01 PM) Teoalida: over all living room doors
(8:03:45 PM) Teoalida: standard 4-room built in 1980s were up to 108 sqm, if you see bigger, is because they were at ground floor so had a balcony for laundry, or at end of corridor, bought recessed space
(8:04:26 PM) Visitor 70957873: dont think its ground unit. those r in pasir ris & bishan
(8:04:38 PM) Teoalida: or odd angles made it bigger
(8:04:45 PM) Teoalida: Bishan 2xx and 4xx have lots of odd angles
(8:05:17 PM) Visitor 70957873: pasir ris has 112 & 113qsm i think
(8:06:13 PM) Teoalida: https://www.teoalida.com/singapore/HDB-1988-1990-5I-corner-122sqm.png example of recess space that can be purchased
(8:06:23 PM) Teoalida: and other floor plan have 6 meter long kitchen parallel with corridor
(8:06:30 PM) Teoalida: buying recess space add 12 sqm
(8:06:38 PM) Teoalida: I don’t have that floor plan on website
(8:06:41 PM) Visitor 70957873: there are some old 4rm with balcony too
(8:07:53 PM) Teoalida: Tiong Bahru 1950s blocks have huge balconies for 3-room
(8:09:09 PM) Visitor 70957873: any possibility of recess area for a non corner?
(8:09:49 PM) Teoalida: yes https://www.teoalida.com/singapore/HDB-1983-1984-5M-corridor-139sqm.png some people purchased the little space behind main door
(8:09:59 PM) Teoalida: but may I know why do you ask these questions?
(8:10:41 PM) Visitor 70957873: interest
(8:12:40 PM) Teoalida: do you want to buy largest 4-room possible?
(8:12:59 PM) Visitor 70957873: not really
(8:13:21 PM) Visitor 70957873: whats the biggest EA u ever seen
(8:13:40 PM) Teoalida: 210 sqm Choa Chu Kang penthouse
(8:13:59 PM) Visitor 70957873: is that classified as EA
(8:14:24 PM) Visitor 70957873: how about biggest single storey EA
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Chat started on Sunday, February 23, 2020 7:23:56 PM

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(7:23:56 PM) Visitor 70957873: Hi, ytd line dropped. U were saying the largest 4rm. Btw how many sqm is that?
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(7:24:45 PM) Teoalida: (8:12:40 PM) Teoalida: do you want to buy largest 4-room possible?
(8:12:59 PM) Visitor 70957873: not really
(8:13:21 PM) Visitor 70957873: whats the biggest EA u ever seen
(8:13:40 PM) Teoalida: 210 sqm Choa Chu Kang penthouse
(8:13:59 PM) Visitor 70957873: is that classified as EA
(8:14:24 PM) Visitor 70957873: how about biggest single storey EA
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(7:24:57 PM) Teoalida: jumbo flats are single storey EA up to 192 sqm
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Chat started on Monday, February 24, 2020 6:07:47 PM

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(6:07:48 PM) Visitor 70957873: Hi
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(6:08:07 PM) Teoalida: hello
(6:12:56 PM) Visitor 70957873: We chatted
(6:13:21 PM) Visitor 70957873: you were talking abt largest 4rm flat possible
(6:35:46 PM) Visitor 70957873: hi?
(6:36:46 PM) Teoalida: what do you want me to say?
(6:37:43 PM) Visitor 70957873: where is the largest 4rm possible?
(6:37:49 PM) Visitor 70957873: With recess?
(6:38:18 PM) Teoalida: I answered this 2 days ago, or do you want me to filter and sort https://www.teoalida.com/singapore/hdbresaleflatpricesdatabase/ ?
(6:39:28 PM) Visitor 70957873: u asked me if i want to buy the largest possible 4rm. thought u have seen one that is unique
(6:42:02 PM) Teoalida: Agent uploaded: 1582562520061.png
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(6:42:45 PM) Teoalida: oh… KG ARANG RD, it is a 1-room or 2-room emergency block converted into 4-room having 135 sqm
(6:43:03 PM) Teoalida: because at the time of conversion Model A naming was not introduced, it been called New Generation
(6:44:05 PM) Teoalida: and in case of adjoined flats it’s a big question why they been called 4-room. Usually if they are in 120-140 sqm would have been called 5-room and if above 140 sqm executive
(6:44:48 PM) Visitor 70957873: 135? it is how many units combined?
(6:45:17 PM) Teoalida: people are allowed to adjoin only two units 3-room or smaller
(6:45:23 PM) Visitor 70957873: is it still in existence?
(6:46:09 PM) Visitor 70957873: as in the 4rm with 135sqm
(6:46:29 PM) Teoalida: but Yalimah Yacob adjoined a 4-room and a 5-room, how she was allowed to do this and how long time ago did adjoined?
(6:48:37 PM) Visitor 70957873: some adjoining units are only 130+sqm & already termed as jumbo. it is smaller than the older EA
(6:49:05 PM) Teoalida: people can adjoin two 1-room too if they own them
(6:49:38 PM) Visitor 70957873: no point. its only abt a 3rm size
(6:50:16 PM) Teoalida: adjoining two 3-room Standard flats that are around 50-54 sqm would make a 108 sqm flat that will be classified as 4-Room Model A
(6:51:24 PM) Visitor 70957873: 3-room Standard flats that are around 50-54 sqm are mostly upgraded with utility already
(6:52:44 PM) Visitor 70957873: what is the reason why no longer construct utility rooms
(6:53:29 PM) Teoalida: utility rooms were added by Main Upgrading Programme… explain me why MUP was closed in 2007 and replaced with HIP and NRP?
(6:54:59 PM) Visitor 70957873: utility room is really useful. HIP works just upgrade of toilets
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\Chat started on Monday, February 24, 2020 7:13:13 PM

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(7:13:15 PM) Teoalida (site owner): Hello visitor from Singapore, are you looking for a specific database? Let me know if I can help you!
(7:15:20 PM) Visitor 70957873: are squarish or L-shape living rooms more popular?
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(7:15:45 PM) Teoalida: might be possible that MUP was too costly. And what is the use of utility room?
(7:17:14 PM) Visitor 70957873: utility room is abt half the size of normal bedroom. Utility can be as an extra bedroom, study room, storage etc
(7:17:44 PM) Teoalida: it looks like maid room
(7:17:51 PM) Teoalida: so many 3-room owners need maids?
(7:18:11 PM) Teoalida: and it may raise flat size with 10% thus sell higher price too
(7:18:25 PM) Teoalida: but how much people did paid for MUP and how much government paid?
(7:18:41 PM) Visitor 70957873: study room maybe. store room not enough space so utility room helps
(7:18:59 PM) Teoalida: regarding living room shape, I don’t know if squarish or L-shaped are more popular but personally I prefer dining and living to NOT be separated like in case of https://www.99.co/singapore/sale/property/677c-jurong-west-street-64-hdb-Ax5PQ6NM4LUbtuSKQJGxbf
(7:19:17 PM) Visitor 70957873: there are some 4rm flats upgraded with utility too
(7:19:23 PM) Teoalida: I know
(7:19:46 PM) Teoalida: if they upgraded New Generation blocks, the have 4-room units at ends
(7:20:17 PM) Teoalida: 5-room point blocks also got a space adding item
(7:21:43 PM) Visitor 70957873: if living and dining seperated wouldnt it has more privacy and well defined purpose
(7:22:23 PM) Teoalida: probably I am the type of person who don’t care about privacy
(7:24:12 PM) Visitor 70957873: probably one of the best is older corner EA with long recess. can hit up to around 160sqsm
(7:25:04 PM) Teoalida: https://www.teoalida.com/singapore/HDB-1988-1992-EA-corner-142sqm.png this is one of my favorite
(7:25:47 PM) Teoalida: but I would put dining and living sofa+TV in same room and what is labelled as dining room use as family room
(7:27:15 PM) Visitor 70957873: Some ppl constructed a door between the study and store that area
(7:29:03 PM) Teoalida: https://www.teoalida.com/design/Apartment-Design-Compilation-4-Room.png which is your favorite design?
(7:29:07 PM) Visitor 70957873: it helps to cut off the sound from the living and of course privacy when there are functions going on in the living
(7:31:57 PM) Visitor 70957873: maybe sg segmented. whats 4.5 room?
(7:33:22 PM) Teoalida: I use 1/2 room for those with dining and living separated
(7:33:26 PM) Teoalida: but without door between
(7:33:36 PM) Teoalida: like HDB 3 1/2 room
(7:34:23 PM) Visitor 70957873: 4.5 room is it like 4A?
(7:35:04 PM) Teoalida: 4A means 100-110 sqm, regardless of number of rooms and separation of living/dining
(7:35:43 PM) Teoalida: Malaysia houses that have at least 4 bedrooms usually have also a family room, but dining room is not always separated from living
(7:35:54 PM) Visitor 70957873: sg segmented u showed me is 132sqm, which is more like 5A instead
(7:36:00 PM) Teoalida: https://www.teoalida.com/design/Semi-Detached-House-172sqm.png
(7:36:21 PM) Teoalida: vs https://www.teoalida.com/design/Semi-Detached-House-138sqm.png
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Chat started on Monday, February 24, 2020 7:51:24 PM

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(7:51:25 PM) Visitor 70957873: which estates do u think are pretty quiet and peaceful with reasonable amenities around?
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(7:51:30 PM) Teoalida: look more in https://www.teoalida.com/design/houseplans/ most of my houses don’t have dining separated
(7:51:44 PM) Teoalida: you talk too much for someone who is not buying anything or paying any service
(7:53:31 PM) Visitor 70957873: the way u talked will lose potential customers
(7:53:55 PM) Visitor 70957873: anyway bye
(7:54:30 PM) Teoalida: the way YOU talk very long to me prevent me from doing the projects that customers paid me to do!
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