Initially I thought that he wants to buy my car models database, then realized that he is actually looking for car customers email database, he told me how he built his own email database by paying other websites to add a cookie that sends him the info users enter when they register, using a pop-up that you should click “I accept cookies” (a bit DIRTY way to collect emails in my opinion… what do you think?).
He offered to pay me too for cookie but my website do not have an user registration feature.
Country: United States
Page URL: http://www.teoalida.com/cardatabase/middle-east/
Chat started on Monday, October 02, 2017 8:53:29 PM
(8:53:29 PM) *** Visitor: has joined the chat ***
(8:53:31 PM) Teoalida (site owner): Hi there… are you looking for a specific database? you are welcome for a chat!
(9:15:10 PM) Visitor: i am more looking into possible auto buyers database in MENA region lol
(9:15:20 PM) Visitor: not sure if this is the right site for that kind of info
(9:15:34 PM) *** Teoalida has joined the chat ***
(9:15:45 PM) Teoalida: my databases include Middle East
(9:24:36 PM) Visitor: nice
(9:24:42 PM) Visitor: but do they have customer emails?
(9:24:49 PM) Teoalida: oh noo
(9:24:58 PM) Teoalida: from where do you think that we can get customer emails?
(9:25:15 PM) Visitor: not sure lol, i was just googling around
(9:25:17 PM) Teoalida: when you buy a car nobody ask you for email address
(9:25:30 PM) Teoalida: or, hope you don’t want emails of customers buying databases from me
(9:26:16 PM) Visitor: lol, if you dont have it, I won’t ask
(9:26:22 PM) Teoalida: maybe the car-related websites where you need to register with email and password…. but sharing the emails of users with a third-party is BAD
(9:26:42 PM) Visitor: we are working to build partnerships
(9:26:48 PM) Visitor: i work for a data provider
(9:27:00 PM) Teoalida: what data do you provide?
(9:27:03 PM) Visitor: we are exploring partners to build MENA data
(9:27:18 PM) Visitor: We currently provide all data in the US, UK & FR regions
(9:27:39 PM) Visitor: but our clients (auto makers) are looking to buy data from the MENA region too
(9:28:02 PM) Visitor: so we are searching for partners on Auto buyers data
(9:28:20 PM) Visitor: for advertising purpose
(9:28:24 PM) Teoalida: what are you saying… do you provide car customer emails in US, UK, FR?
(9:28:25 PM) Visitor: display ad, fb ads
(9:28:28 PM) Visitor: yes
(9:28:35 PM) Teoalida: is this legal?
(9:28:38 PM) Visitor: yeah!
(9:28:53 PM) Visitor: all customer data is transformed into MD5 Hash
(9:28:54 PM) Teoalida: some people ask me for customers information, not just emails but also name and address
(9:28:59 PM) Teoalida: should direct them to you?
(9:29:13 PM) Visitor: no, we dont provide it that way
(9:29:25 PM) Visitor: we anonymize our customer data to MD5 Hash
(9:29:36 PM) Visitor: and we only transfer data from one platform to another, like google
(9:29:46 PM) Visitor: we do not give customer the data directly
(9:30:38 PM) Teoalida: or you offer service of sending mass emails without disclosing email addresses?
(9:30:46 PM) Visitor: what we could potential do is, we ask websites with MENA auto traffic to place our tracking pixel on their site. We collect the visitors data, and if we sell to automaker, the website also gets a share of the revenue
(9:31:09 PM) Visitor: We send digital ads to those customers without disclosing emails, yes
(9:31:27 PM) Teoalida: oh, once time ago someone asked me for such thing
(9:31:34 PM) Teoalida: didn’t knew that is possible
(9:31:44 PM) Visitor: yeah man, it’s crazy but definitely possible
(9:31:46 PM) Teoalida: didn’t understand why he was so convinced that I have emails databases
(9:31:58 PM) Visitor: not necessary emails, cookies work too
(9:32:19 PM) Teoalida:
Country: United Arab Emirates
Page URL: http://www.teoalida.com/cardatabase/middle-east/
Chat started on Sunday, March 26, 2017 12:55:02 PM
(12:55:02 PM) *** Visitor 44998552 has joined the chat ***
(12:55:04 PM) Teoalida: Hello from website admin… are you looking for a specific database? you are welcome for a chat!
(12:55:12 PM) Visitor: HI
(12:55:17 PM) Visitor: do you have the database of customers
(12:55:20 PM) *** Teoalida has joined the chat ***
(12:55:22 PM) Teoalida: what customers?
(12:55:22 PM) Visitor: with their email addresses and mobile numbers
(12:55:32 PM) Visitor: based on specific vehicle categories
(12:55:34 PM) Visitor: for e;g;
(12:55:54 PM) Visitor: owners of a chevrolet camaro who are contact-able with email address and mobile phone numbers
(12:56:16 PM) Teoalida: oh, I though that you ask customers who bought databases from me
(12:56:30 PM) Teoalida: car owner name, email and phone number is private info
(12:56:39 PM) Teoalida: your country don’t have a personal info protection law?
(12:56:57 PM) Visitor: I have a campaign wherein we’d like to send communications to these customers via email and sms
(12:57:02 PM) Visitor: if you cant share the database
(12:57:09 PM) Teoalida: you can ask a car dealer to give you such info, but they should NOT give due to law
(12:57:23 PM) Visitor: do you have a function wherein you would be able to manage communications for us?
(12:57:28 PM) Visitor: dispatch the email or sms messages to the customers
(12:57:52 PM) Visitor: I’m looking for competitor distributors or brands data
(12:58:20 PM) Teoalida: You want to do email and SMS spamming to promote a product or service such as insurance?
(12:58:50 PM) Teoalida: what function and what competitor distributors? I don’t understand
(1:01:20 PM) Teoalida: BTW, one option to get owners phone number and email is to scrap data from an used cars classified website… a stupid website who don’t protect this info from spammers
(1:02:07 PM) Visitor: not insurance and not spamming
(1:02:17 PM) Visitor: ok thank you very much
(1:02:27 PM) Visitor: i’d like to point whoever is on the other end of the chat
(1:02:34 PM) Visitor: it always helps to be polite to enquiring customers
(1:02:48 PM) Visitor: being rude and using rash words doesn’t come off positively.
(1:02:49 PM) Visitor: Thanks anyway
(1:02:52 PM) Teoalida: Did I said something that is not polite?
(1:03:30 PM) Teoalida: Any serious website will protect phone and email from being scraped
(1:03:33 PM) *** Visitor 44998552 has left ***
(9:34:34 PM) Visitor: LOL
(9:34:36 PM) Visitor: he mad
(9:34:52 PM) Visitor: the thing he used is illegal
(9:35:01 PM) Visitor: he is not hashing the customer info
(9:35:02 PM) Teoalida: I think he got angry because I called him spammer
(9:35:04 PM) Visitor: that’s bad
(9:36:21 PM) Visitor: If you own a website that has these auto buyer (potential) data, you can work with company like mine to run advertisement
(9:37:04 PM) Visitor: but you do need to tell them they are being cookied
(9:37:14 PM) Teoalida: but the big question was why he was so sure that I have email database and can send emails without sharing database?
(9:37:46 PM) Visitor: he probably saw your excel files
(9:37:50 PM) Visitor: thought you may have it
(9:37:52 PM) Visitor: just like me
(9:37:53 PM) Visitor: lol
(9:37:53 PM) Teoalida: all what I have regarding emails are the few hundred emails of people who bought databases from me in 5 years of business
(9:38:10 PM) Visitor: yeah, those dont work with advertising lol
(9:38:14 PM) Teoalida: my excel files shows what I have, NOT emails but rather technical data found in car sale brochures
(9:40:32 PM) Visitor: yeah man, you’re right
(9:41:04 PM) Visitor: look, if you know any websites that may wanna work with us in the MENA region, please let me know. We can pay you a referral fee or something.
(9:41:20 PM) Teoalida: DriveArabia?
(9:41:41 PM) Teoalida: what kind of websites do you need?
(9:41:54 PM) Teoalida: and as curiosity how much you pay for tracking emails registered?
(9:43:35 PM) Visitor: woo, that site is nice
(9:43:59 PM) Teoalida: give me your email address to forward you something
(9:44:13 PM) Visitor: we dont pay until our automaker pays us, which we give 5% revenue share to our suppliers
(9:44:31 PM) Visitor: they usually pay $100k/month on data
(9:44:37 PM) Visitor: for MENA, we are not sure yet
(9:44:43 PM) Visitor: since this is pretty new
(9:44:54 PM) Visitor: sure, ***@********.com
(9:45:02 PM) Visitor: My name is Jim, nice to meet you!
(9:45:28 PM) Teoalida: sent
(9:52:50 PM) Visitor: yeah, i dont trust those
(9:53:01 PM) Visitor: i prefer adding a pixel to sites like drivearabia.com
(9:53:06 PM) Visitor: and collect the cookies there
(9:53:48 PM) Teoalida: have you noticed that his website contain Loren ipsum ?
(9:54:29 PM) Teoalida: incomplete website… someone who I forwarded emails earlier said that beside the fact that is illegal to sell personal data, the data is most likely fake
(10:03:02 PM) Visitor: yeah
(10:07:58 PM) *** Visitor has left ***